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Old 07-16-2003, 11:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
Eric S. Sande
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Re: Do bicycles and cars mix?

>If you were to ride behind me for a while, you would probably assume I
>was riding according to the ol' vehicular cycling principle. My style
>looks to the untrained eye pretty much the same. But my attitude is
>fundamentally different. V.C. riders ride in order to maximize
>visibility and to look predictable to motorists. I ride to maximize
>space. I have given up on depending on motorists for anything.


Interesting. I'm a fan of the "invisible bubble" theory myself.

That's the inverse of your "invisible cyclist" theory. See some of
my other posts on how to manage road space.

>We might be riding the exact same line out in the lane, but you would
>ride it to be seen, and I would ride it because I assume I'm *not* seen.
>Interesting, eh?


It comes down to how you define visibility. You seem to assume that
I actually ride in a trusting manner. You would be wrong. As I stated,
my motive is to get to point B, intact. And obey the traffic laws and
stay alive.

However I am not under any illusions as to how best to approach the
problem.

>I love visibility as much as the next guy, but it's a pipe dream. The
>V.C. rider's attitude of dependence on others and faith in traffic law
>principles is what will put him in the hospital every now and again.


I'm a street rider, not what you think of as a V.C. rider, I think.

I'm on record as saying EC is "a good start". Maybe we're closer on this
than you seem to think. I remain flexible.

>To me, this is not an acceptable risk.


Mastery of the traffic environment on a bicycle is not a passive process.

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