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01-18-2005, 07:32 PM

Bill Baka wrote:
> M. Barbee wrote:
>
>> jabario@backpacker.com wrote:
>>
>>> When my dog was neutered he was fine within a couple of days. Why
>>> would any self respecting MAN get himself fixed? If you are in a
>>> committed relationship it is your duty to tell your woman to get on the
>>> pill. If not you have to bag it anyway to prevent getting skanked and
>>> that will prevent pregancy . Think about how you will feel walking
>>> around knowing you are shooting blanks. You'll probably feel alot like
>>> a fixed dog. They lose something after being fixed. You will too.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps most people no that this is total nonsense, but in case
>> someone doesn't: I lost nothing. In fact, I'm better because I'm
>> more relaxed since there's no worry about "my woman" getting
>> pregnant. No worry about the condom breaking. No worry about her
>> "forgetting" to take the pill or something going wrong with the pill.
>> In fact, if you tell "your woman" to get on the pill, and she agrees,
>> there is a chance for side effects that effect her libido. No need to
>> risk this and other side effects now. Any self respecting MAN, who
>> knows he never wants to have children or never wants to have any more
>> children, would take responsibility for the contraception and not try
>> to shift his responsibility onto "his woman." A condom is one
>> option. A vasectomy is another.
>
>
> I am not 'fixed' since I only had one daughter but I have heard tales of
> accidental pregnancies, so would probably advise the female half to use
> the pill too. My daughter is 26 and tells her mom (not me) about her sex
> life and broken condoms (details left out) so to be as safe as possible
> you would want to use a vasectomy, pill, condom approach. Kind of like
> biking, be prepared for what could go wrong. Since there are nasties
> like AIDs out there, it is better to err on the safe side. Worrying
> about getting my wife pregnant is now a non issue since we are both in
> our 55~60 stage. Only problem is that men never stop being able to start
> off a new life and that could lead to a really hard to explain situation.
> Proceed with caution,
> Bill Baka

I agree no method of contraception is 100% effective. I am aware that
condoms, pills and vasectomies fail, but vasectomy failure is less 1%.
Sometimes the tube grows back together. My doctor in addition to the
usual cutting and cauterizing, bent the tubes away from each other. I
went back for both of my post procedure sperm counts, even though my
doctor said most of his patients disappear after the first count. Some
of the failures associated with other methods like the pill and
contraception are caused by improper use of the contraceptive
(forgetting to take the pill one day, putting the condom on too late or
improperly...). That isn't a concern with a vasectomy. The risk is as
low as possible barring abstinence, and I can live with that level or risk.

On the other hand, STD's are real. I am married, but if I were not, I'd
definitely be using a condom as well with any woman with whom I were
having sexual activity.

01-18-2005, 07:32 PM	#82 (permalink)
M. Barbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: vasectomy recovery time Bill Baka wrote: > M. Barbee wrote: > >> jabario@backpacker.com wrote: >> >>> When my dog was neutered he was fine within a couple of days. Why >>> would any self respecting MAN get himself fixed? If you are in a >>> committed relationship it is your duty to tell your woman to get on the >>> pill. If not you have to bag it anyway to prevent getting skanked and >>> that will prevent pregancy . Think about how you will feel walking >>> around knowing you are shooting blanks. You'll probably feel alot like >>> a fixed dog. They lose something after being fixed. You will too. >>> >> >> Perhaps most people no that this is total nonsense, but in case >> someone doesn't: I lost nothing. In fact, I'm better because I'm >> more relaxed since there's no worry about "my woman" getting >> pregnant. No worry about the condom breaking. No worry about her >> "forgetting" to take the pill or something going wrong with the pill. >> In fact, if you tell "your woman" to get on the pill, and she agrees, >> there is a chance for side effects that effect her libido. No need to >> risk this and other side effects now. Any self respecting MAN, who >> knows he never wants to have children or never wants to have any more >> children, would take responsibility for the contraception and not try >> to shift his responsibility onto "his woman." A condom is one >> option. A vasectomy is another. > > > I am not 'fixed' since I only had one daughter but I have heard tales of > accidental pregnancies, so would probably advise the female half to use > the pill too. My daughter is 26 and tells her mom (not me) about her sex > life and broken condoms (details left out) so to be as safe as possible > you would want to use a vasectomy, pill, condom approach. Kind of like > biking, be prepared for what could go wrong. Since there are nasties > like AIDs out there, it is better to err on the safe side. Worrying > about getting my wife pregnant is now a non issue since we are both in > our 55~60 stage. Only problem is that men never stop being able to start > off a new life and that could lead to a really hard to explain situation. > Proceed with caution, > Bill Baka I agree no method of contraception is 100% effective. I am aware that condoms, pills and vasectomies fail, but vasectomy failure is less 1%. Sometimes the tube grows back together. My doctor in addition to the usual cutting and cauterizing, bent the tubes away from each other. I went back for both of my post procedure sperm counts, even though my doctor said most of his patients disappear after the first count. Some of the failures associated with other methods like the pill and contraception are caused by improper use of the contraceptive (forgetting to take the pill one day, putting the condom on too late or improperly...). That isn't a concern with a vasectomy. The risk is as low as possible barring abstinence, and I can live with that level or risk. On the other hand, STD's are real. I am married, but if I were not, I'd definitely be using a condom as well with any woman with whom I were having sexual activity.