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03-01-2005, 07:11 PM

In article <1109690835.126095.281650@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:

> Ted wrote:
> > In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>,
> > Diablo Scott <N0SPAMdiabloscott@terra.es> wrote:
> >
> > > Steve Sr. wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bike Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and
> looking
> > > > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> > > > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the
> same
> > > > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> > > > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also
> have
> > > > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of
> redundant
> > > > spare parts.
> > > >
> > > > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank
> with
> > > > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so
> cassette
> > > > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range
> rear
> > > > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a
> 31.6mm
> > > > seat tube.
> > > >
> > > > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to
> go
> > > > with the new 10-speed setup?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > 1. It's "gruppo"
> > > 2. It's "triple"
> > > 3. It's "derailleur"
> > > 4. It's available just about everywhere for now.
> >
> > Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!
> >
> > 1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
> > English-speaking environs, it's "group".
> >
> > 2. Yep.
> >
> > 3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
> > "Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
> > explains what it does.
>
>
> Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown
> word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a
> bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English
> dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not
> find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a
> made up word.

Yebbut, the dictionary is wrong. There's been majority rule long enough
around here.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland, OR

03-01-2005, 07:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ted Posts: n/a	Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New? In article <1109690835.126095.281650@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote: > Ted wrote: > > In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>, > > Diablo Scott <N0SPAMdiabloscott@terra.es> wrote: > > > > > Steve Sr. wrote: > > > > > > > Bike Folks, > > > > > > > > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and > looking > > > > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for > > > > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the > same > > > > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra > > > > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also > have > > > > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of > redundant > > > > spare parts. > > > > > > > > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank > with > > > > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so > cassette > > > > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range > rear > > > > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a > 31.6mm > > > > seat tube. > > > > > > > > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to > go > > > > with the new 10-speed setup? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > 1. It's "gruppo" > > > 2. It's "triple" > > > 3. It's "derailleur" > > > 4. It's available just about everywhere for now. > > > > Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant! > > > > 1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in > > English-speaking environs, it's "group". > > > > 2. Yep. > > > > 3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French. > > "Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word > > explains what it does. > > > Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown > word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a > bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English > dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not > find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a > made up word. Yebbut, the dictionary is wrong. There's been majority rule long enough around here. -- Ted Bennett Portland, OR