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01-16-2007, 04:05 PM

"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12qq31reieiqb1d@news.supernews.com...
> Mark Hickey wrote:
> :: tomkeats@bud.garden.local (Tom Keats) wrote:
> ::
> ::: So I have the feeling these victims may have been
> ::: picked-on because they were /perceived/ as "rich chicks"
> ::: with fancy, expensive bikes, sticking their /perceived/
> ::: Conspicuous Consumerism in other people's faces.
> :::
> ::: Or maybe the perps thought the cyclists were gay,
> ::: and it's a case of [misguided] gay-bashing?
> :::
> ::: I dunno.
> :::
> ::: But as a life-long city boy, I do know when I'm
> ::: confrontin'. And I know when to back-off.
> :::
> ::: I guess these ladies didn't.
> ::
> :: Would you say the same about if the victims had been black and a
> :: group of affluent white girls had attacked them because of their
> :: hip-hop dress and attitude? If only they had "backed off"...
> ::
> :: Exactly how DO you "back off" when your "insult" is being white and
> :: riding a bike? Personally, I'm not quite sure how to do that. I've
> :: ridden thousands of miles through predominantly black neighborhoods
> :: and never realized that I needed to "back off".
>
> I took it to mean use some caution in a potentially dangerous situation.
> The backing off part would be to alter your course, speed up, etc., rather
> than just riding into trouble.
>
> Again, we can't know for sure that this was only racially motivated. The
> trigger might have been something else and the racial slurs came "just
> because.".
>
>

That doesn't matter. Once you're beating someone while calling them
"cracker" or "white bitch" or whatever, the attack morphs into a racial
attack. Unless, of course, you would say the same if three white guys beat
up two black cyclists while calling them the n-word or other racial slurs.

01-16-2007, 04:05 PM	#44 (permalink)
Gooserider Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Two cyclists attacked and beaten in Portland "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:12qq31reieiqb1d@news.supernews.com... > Mark Hickey wrote: > :: tomkeats@bud.garden.local (Tom Keats) wrote: > :: > ::: So I have the feeling these victims may have been > ::: picked-on because they were /perceived/ as "rich chicks" > ::: with fancy, expensive bikes, sticking their /perceived/ > ::: Conspicuous Consumerism in other people's faces. > ::: > ::: Or maybe the perps thought the cyclists were gay, > ::: and it's a case of [misguided] gay-bashing? > ::: > ::: I dunno. > ::: > ::: But as a life-long city boy, I do know when I'm > ::: confrontin'. And I know when to back-off. > ::: > ::: I guess these ladies didn't. > :: > :: Would you say the same about if the victims had been black and a > :: group of affluent white girls had attacked them because of their > :: hip-hop dress and attitude? If only they had "backed off"... > :: > :: Exactly how DO you "back off" when your "insult" is being white and > :: riding a bike? Personally, I'm not quite sure how to do that. I've > :: ridden thousands of miles through predominantly black neighborhoods > :: and never realized that I needed to "back off". > > I took it to mean use some caution in a potentially dangerous situation. > The backing off part would be to alter your course, speed up, etc., rather > than just riding into trouble. > > Again, we can't know for sure that this was only racially motivated. The > trigger might have been something else and the racial slurs came "just > because.". > > That doesn't matter. Once you're beating someone while calling them "cracker" or "white bitch" or whatever, the attack morphs into a racial attack. Unless, of course, you would say the same if three white guys beat up two black cyclists while calling them the n-word or other racial slurs.