01-16-2007, 04:11 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12qq3816lc08fa7@news.supernews.com...
> Gooserider wrote:
> :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:12qp184jj457i66@news.supernews.com...
> ::: Gooserider wrote:
> ::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ::::: news:12qnr8i94qr3qe1@news.supernews.com...
> :::::: Ken C. M. wrote:
> :::::::: Gooserider wrote:
> ::::::::: Wow. And that's a bike friendly city. I hope the assailants
> ::::::::: are caught and sent to prison.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: http://www.katu.com/news/5184291.html
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: PORTLAND, Ore. - Two cyclists said they were attacked by three
> ::::::::: teenagers near a north Portland bus stop on Wednesday.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: The women, Ashley Gorman and her co-worker Heather Moles, were
> ::::::::: riding their bikes home from work when the attack occurred
> ::::::::: near Legacy Emanuel Hospital.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: The cyclists said the teen girls were standing in the bike
> ::::::::: lane waiting for the bus and they had to steer their bikes
> ::::::::: around the group. The teens may have thought the cyclists
> ::::::::: rode too closely.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: The next thing she knew, one of the teens kicked out Moles'
> ::::::::: tire, causing her to fall.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: "I felt the thud, and then the tire went, and I went skidding
> ::::::::: into the road," Moles said.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: That's when the beating began. Three teens punched both
> ::::::::: cyclists in the head and dislocated Moles' shoulder.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: Jonathan Corey was passing by and helped break up the fight,
> ::::::::: pulling the teens off the cyclists.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: "It became obvious who was the aggressor in the whole
> ::::::::: equation," he said.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: Corey added that the assailants were ruthless.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: "I felt like I almost didn't use enough force in retrospect
> ::::::::: as I might have wanted to to make the thing stop," he said.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: One witness heard a racial slur aimed at the cyclists, who
> ::::::::: said they didn't hear it. The teens were black while the
> ::::::::: cyclists were white.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: The cyclists wonder whether race had anything to do with the
> ::::::::: attack. They can't understand what caused it.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: "I could imagine if we had said something but nothing was
> ::::::::: said," Gorman said.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: Gorman suffered the worst beating. She went to the emergency
> ::::::::: room but has no insurance to pay for it.
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: "I got bruised up pretty good," Gorman said. "I got my behind
> ::::::::: handed to me."
> :::::::::
> ::::::::: A fourth teenager with the group apparently stood by during
> ::::::::: the attack but then apologized afterward just before everybody
> ::::::::: scattered and police arrived.
> :::::::::
> :::::::::
> ::::::::
> :::::::: And I thought Portland was generally regarded as very cyclist
> :::::::: friendly! If thats friendly I would hate to see hostile.
> ::::::
> :::::: Surely you don't judge an entire city by the acts of a few stupid
> :::::: teens....
> ::::::
> :::::: Strange (or
> :::::::: maybe not) that race was mentioned in the article. I wonder if
> :::::::: it was a predominately black (African American or whatever)
> :::::::: part of town.
> ::::::
> :::::: Maybe it was just a random occurence. Who knows. Geez, people.
> ::::::
> ::::::
> :::::
> ::::: And MAYBE the black girls attacked two white women because they
> ::::: were white, and did so while calling them racial slurs. Geez,
> ::::: Roger.
> :::
> ::: Given that you nor I were there, we'll never know. For all you
> ::: know, one of the women on bike could have said something to incite
> ::: them.
> ::
> :: Nothing they could have said(and they insist they said nothing)
> :: justifies a BEATING. What kind of bull is that, Roger? Even if the
> :: two cyclists were n-word spouting skinheads, no words justify a
> :: beating. Why are you so unwilling to believe this is what it
> :: obviously is---a racial attack? Unbelievable.
>
> Who said anything at all about the attack being justified? Are you truly
> this stupid? I don't think it was justified in any manner whatsoever.
> However, I'm not so willing to believe as you are, that it was racially
> motivated. Perhaps that's the "easy" answer, but so what? That doesn't
> make it so.
>
> Obviously, you have some issues.
Once you said---"For all you know, one of the women on bike could have said
something to incite them."--you were looking for justification. You have
some issues, I think. A witness said that racial slurs were said during the
attack, the victims and attackers were of different races---what do you
THINK? Unreal. I seriously doubt you would be so easy going if the races in
this case were reversed. It's a racist attack, even if it didn't START that
way it became one.
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