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Old 01-17-2007, 09:33 PM   #65 (permalink)
Tom Keats
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Re: Two cyclists attacked and beaten in Portland

In article <12qq2rm602imtcd@news.supernews.com>,
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> writes:

> I tell you what....I'm surprised the ladies on bikes let them get so close.


I think the punkettes were just standing there,
and it was the ladies on bikes who got close.

> It's hard to know the circumstances, but if I were riding and saw them
> threatening kids ahead in the bike lane, I'd have either turned around or
> swung wide with speed.


Same here, more or less.

> Could be the problem started with the kids standing
> in the bike lane and the cyclists trying to use that lane too.


I still intuitively "feel" the kids were /daring/
anybody else in the bike lane. Bullying doesn't
need external triggers. It's internally triggered.
That's what makes it bullying -- arbitrarily picking-on
anyone available. The cyclists did nothing wrong.
They just rode into a trap they didn't perceive.

As for "where the problem started": maybe the problem started
with the kids' upbringings. I know that sounds like glib
Liberal crap, but gee whiz -- when kids aren't taught values,
or respect for their fellow people (or themselves,) or creativity,
or appreciation, or constructiveness, or acceptance -- we're
creating horrible monsters for our posterity, adopting stupid
notions about the value of humanity.

Then we've got to develop a prison industry to deal with
the horrible monsters we create. Because /we/ don't have
enough values, or respect for our fellow people (or ourselves,)
or creativity, or appreciation, or constructiveness, or
acceptance, to think-up anything better.

I guess if we were better, then /We/ would be better.

I'm tryin' to do my part. Sometimes I don't do so good.
Sometimes I do. But I'm still working at it.


cheers,
Tom

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