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01-17-2007, 10:52 PM

"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@bud.garden.local> wrote in message
news:rr0noe.o33.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <12qq2rm602imtcd@news.supernews.com>,
> "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> I tell you what....I'm surprised the ladies on bikes let them get so
>> close.
>
> I think the punkettes were just standing there,
> and it was the ladies on bikes who got close.
>
>> It's hard to know the circumstances, but if I were riding and saw them
>> threatening kids ahead in the bike lane, I'd have either turned around or
>> swung wide with speed.
>
> Same here, more or less.
>
>> Could be the problem started with the kids standing
>> in the bike lane and the cyclists trying to use that lane too.
>
> I still intuitively "feel" the kids were /daring/
> anybody else in the bike lane. Bullying doesn't
> need external triggers. It's internally triggered.
> That's what makes it bullying -- arbitrarily picking-on
> anyone available. The cyclists did nothing wrong.
> They just rode into a trap they didn't perceive.
>
> As for "where the problem started": maybe the problem started
> with the kids' upbringings. I know that sounds like glib
> Liberal crap, but gee whiz -- when kids aren't taught values,
> or respect for their fellow people (or themselves,) or creativity,
> or appreciation, or constructiveness, or acceptance -- we're
> creating horrible monsters for our posterity, adopting stupid
> notions about the value of humanity.
>
> Then we've got to develop a prison industry to deal with
> the horrible monsters we create. Because /we/ don't have
> enough values, or respect for our fellow people (or ourselves,)
> or creativity, or appreciation, or constructiveness, or
> acceptance, to think-up anything better.
>
> I guess if we were better, then /We/ would be better.
>
> I'm tryin' to do my part. Sometimes I don't do so good.
> Sometimes I do. But I'm still working at it.
>
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

You practicing to be the next Dalai Lama?

01-17-2007, 10:52 PM	#66 (permalink)
nash Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Two cyclists attacked and beaten in Portland "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@bud.garden.local> wrote in message news:rr0noe.o33.ln@bud.garden.local... > In article <12qq2rm602imtcd@news.supernews.com>, > "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> writes: > >> I tell you what....I'm surprised the ladies on bikes let them get so >> close. > > I think the punkettes were just standing there, > and it was the ladies on bikes who got close. > >> It's hard to know the circumstances, but if I were riding and saw them >> threatening kids ahead in the bike lane, I'd have either turned around or >> swung wide with speed. > > Same here, more or less. > >> Could be the problem started with the kids standing >> in the bike lane and the cyclists trying to use that lane too. > > I still intuitively "feel" the kids were /daring/ > anybody else in the bike lane. Bullying doesn't > need external triggers. It's internally triggered. > That's what makes it bullying -- arbitrarily picking-on > anyone available. The cyclists did nothing wrong. > They just rode into a trap they didn't perceive. > > As for "where the problem started": maybe the problem started > with the kids' upbringings. I know that sounds like glib > Liberal crap, but gee whiz -- when kids aren't taught values, > or respect for their fellow people (or themselves,) or creativity, > or appreciation, or constructiveness, or acceptance -- we're > creating horrible monsters for our posterity, adopting stupid > notions about the value of humanity. > > Then we've got to develop a prison industry to deal with > the horrible monsters we create. Because /we/ don't have > enough values, or respect for our fellow people (or ourselves,) > or creativity, or appreciation, or constructiveness, or > acceptance, to think-up anything better. > > I guess if we were better, then /We/ would be better. > > I'm tryin' to do my part. Sometimes I don't do so good. > Sometimes I do. But I'm still working at it. > > > cheers, > Tom > > -- > Nothing is safe from me. > Above address is just a spam midden. > I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca You practicing to be the next Dalai Lama?