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01-31-2007, 03:00 PM

Bill Bushnell wrote:
:: In article <12s13765rfeu013@news.supernews.com>,
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::
::::: 1) Do I have any reason to believe that the operator of a power
::::: assisted bicycle intends to ride in a hazardous or illegal manner?
:::
::: Would you? Fear of the unknown creating bias?
::
:: Depends. Some people get or build an electric bike because they
:: really want a stealth motorcycle. Most electric bicycles and
:: operators would fit right in. But if one installs a powerful motor
:: and enough batteries on a bicycle, you have a motorcycle. An
:: operator of such a vehicle may be more interested in speed and if
:: ridden ridden to that end could be a hazard to the other
:: participants.
::
::::: 2) Could I lift the thing onto a bike rack or into a motor vehicle
::::: if it had to be SAGged (or can the heavy bits be removed easily
::::: prior to lifting)?
:::::
:::
::: At 75 lbs, that's easily the weight of 3 bikes. I imagine this
::: would be a serious drawback. I've been on some rides where the
::: some of the sag staff were female. And small, too.
:::
::: Also, I can see removing wheels, but other parts?
::
:: I'm thinking of batteries. It's not reasonable to expect a SAG
:: driver to dead-lift 70 lbs of electric bicycle onto a roof rack.
:: Remove the batteries and you have, say, 40 lbs, which may still be
:: an effort for some. The electric bike designed as a stealth
:: motorcycle, laden with batteries, is more likely to require SAG
:: because the range of such a machine will likely be limited.

Yeah, that exactly what I was thinking....removing a wheel is one thing, but
anything beyond that is a bit much.

::
:: --
:: Bill Bushnell
:: http://pobox.com/~bushnell/

01-31-2007, 03:00 PM	#50 (permalink)
Roger Zoul Guest Posts: n/a	Re: electric bikes on centuries Bill Bushnell wrote: :: In article <12s13765rfeu013@news.supernews.com>, :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: :: ::::: 1) Do I have any reason to believe that the operator of a power ::::: assisted bicycle intends to ride in a hazardous or illegal manner? ::: ::: Would you? Fear of the unknown creating bias? :: :: Depends. Some people get or build an electric bike because they :: really want a stealth motorcycle. Most electric bicycles and :: operators would fit right in. But if one installs a powerful motor :: and enough batteries on a bicycle, you have a motorcycle. An :: operator of such a vehicle may be more interested in speed and if :: ridden ridden to that end could be a hazard to the other :: participants. :: ::::: 2) Could I lift the thing onto a bike rack or into a motor vehicle ::::: if it had to be SAGged (or can the heavy bits be removed easily ::::: prior to lifting)? ::::: ::: ::: At 75 lbs, that's easily the weight of 3 bikes. I imagine this ::: would be a serious drawback. I've been on some rides where the ::: some of the sag staff were female. And small, too. ::: ::: Also, I can see removing wheels, but other parts? :: :: I'm thinking of batteries. It's not reasonable to expect a SAG :: driver to dead-lift 70 lbs of electric bicycle onto a roof rack. :: Remove the batteries and you have, say, 40 lbs, which may still be :: an effort for some. The electric bike designed as a stealth :: motorcycle, laden with batteries, is more likely to require SAG :: because the range of such a machine will likely be limited. Yeah, that exactly what I was thinking....removing a wheel is one thing, but anything beyond that is a bit much. :: :: -- :: Bill Bushnell :: http://pobox.com/~bushnell/