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02-01-2007, 12:22 PM

donquijote1954 wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:54 pm, Bill Baka <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> donquijote1954 wrote:
>>> Hey, that I knew. What is missing in this report though is who among
>>> humans are to blame. See, NOT ALL HUMANS POLLUTE: some drive Stupid
>>> Unnecessary Vehicles while others ride bicycles.
>> Now you sucked me in. ALL humans pollute just by breathing and exhaling
>> CO2, and 6 billion plus pollute a lot.
>> If they would stop destroying the rain forest there would be trees and
>> vegetation to recycle the CO2. Add to that that burning the rain forest
>> makes CO2 and you have 2 bads and no goods.
>
> You are telling me that someone commuting by bike pollutes nearly as
> much as someone riding an SUV just to please his ego? Then the SUVs
> are not a problem and nothing is a problem and nothing gets done.

No! It's just the fact that there are way too many people already.
Do you think the traffic would be so bad if we hadn't gone from 200
million to 300 million in the states in just about 30 years? Now think
globally and how the multitudes of humans are 'taming the wilderness' to
make housing and farm fields and think of all the O2 recycling plants
being shut down (cutting down the rain forest, which may not grow back).
I think the effect of killing the the rain forests and everything else
on other continents will catch up to us sooner than the effect of SUVs.
>
> If you drive an SUV you are the symbol of pollution, though we may all
> pollute to different degrees. It's the ones that don't care and don't
> want to change, the ones guilty for pollution.

That is generally the over paid and snobbish non-cyclists, and I have
plenty of run ins with them on bike or in car. I got turned into a super
cautious type about a month ago when I got hit by an old man of about 70
driving a needlessly large quad cab pickup truck. We made eye contact, I
thought, and he pulled out from a stop sign just as I was crossing in
front of him. The truck was so big that my head was barely at hood
height and he could almost say that he thought I was clear when he
pulled out. The truck bed was hospital clean so I knew he didn't use it
for work, just driving. If he hadn't heard the bam/crunch I may have
been road kill. At that point pollution takes a back seat. Of course
maybe he didn't care about the results of pollution because he wouldn't
be here. This guy should have been driving a little 2 door hatchback but
the male macho attitudes around here dictate that he should drive a
man's truck.
It's a "Go figure" situation. I see plenty of 4 wheel drives around here
that have never seen mud and may not for their entire life. Again, male
one upmanship. Add the soccer moms and you have a mess.

And they go to Hell, I
> hope. Unless, of course, they write the story. They should buy one of
> these bumper stickers...

>
> Yep, that's a miracle indeed. I guess Jesus would have driven a
> Hummer. "By their deeds you shall know them."
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/product/128126522821097506
>
>
>
Maybe we should have a contest for the best thing to put on a bumper
sticker, like "I'm so lazy I drive to the mail box", corner store for
smokes, etc. I would be more than willing to carry some of these and
slap them on oversized and super shiny land yachts.
Start a new movement anyone?
Bill Baka
P.S.
Anybody can nit pick since I am not looking to win a writing contest.

02-01-2007, 12:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bill Baka Posts: n/a	Re: "Humans 'very likely' making earth warmer" is wrong donquijote1954 wrote: > On Feb 1, 2:54 pm, Bill Baka <b...@comcast.net> wrote: >> donquijote1954 wrote: >>> Hey, that I knew. What is missing in this report though is who among >>> humans are to blame. See, NOT ALL HUMANS POLLUTE: some drive Stupid >>> Unnecessary Vehicles while others ride bicycles. >> Now you sucked me in. ALL humans pollute just by breathing and exhaling >> CO2, and 6 billion plus pollute a lot. >> If they would stop destroying the rain forest there would be trees and >> vegetation to recycle the CO2. Add to that that burning the rain forest >> makes CO2 and you have 2 bads and no goods. > > You are telling me that someone commuting by bike pollutes nearly as > much as someone riding an SUV just to please his ego? Then the SUVs > are not a problem and nothing is a problem and nothing gets done. No! It's just the fact that there are way too many people already. Do you think the traffic would be so bad if we hadn't gone from 200 million to 300 million in the states in just about 30 years? Now think globally and how the multitudes of humans are 'taming the wilderness' to make housing and farm fields and think of all the O2 recycling plants being shut down (cutting down the rain forest, which may not grow back). I think the effect of killing the the rain forests and everything else on other continents will catch up to us sooner than the effect of SUVs. > > If you drive an SUV you are the symbol of pollution, though we may all > pollute to different degrees. It's the ones that don't care and don't > want to change, the ones guilty for pollution. That is generally the over paid and snobbish non-cyclists, and I have plenty of run ins with them on bike or in car. I got turned into a super cautious type about a month ago when I got hit by an old man of about 70 driving a needlessly large quad cab pickup truck. We made eye contact, I thought, and he pulled out from a stop sign just as I was crossing in front of him. The truck was so big that my head was barely at hood height and he could almost say that he thought I was clear when he pulled out. The truck bed was hospital clean so I knew he didn't use it for work, just driving. If he hadn't heard the bam/crunch I may have been road kill. At that point pollution takes a back seat. Of course maybe he didn't care about the results of pollution because he wouldn't be here. This guy should have been driving a little 2 door hatchback but the male macho attitudes around here dictate that he should drive a man's truck. It's a "Go figure" situation. I see plenty of 4 wheel drives around here that have never seen mud and may not for their entire life. Again, male one upmanship. Add the soccer moms and you have a mess. And they go to Hell, I > hope. Unless, of course, they write the story. They should buy one of > these bumper stickers... > > Yep, that's a miracle indeed. I guess Jesus would have driven a > Hummer. "By their deeds you shall know them." > > http://www.zazzle.com/product/128126522821097506 > > > Maybe we should have a contest for the best thing to put on a bumper sticker, like "I'm so lazy I drive to the mail box", corner store for smokes, etc. I would be more than willing to carry some of these and slap them on oversized and super shiny land yachts. Start a new movement anyone? Bill Baka P.S. Anybody can nit pick since I am not looking to win a writing contest.