| Re: offering cash to dispute UN climate panel: report
In article <ih77s2dsjvrfsd4vi9p973e5sgujact2u9@4ax.com>, Joe Fischer wrote:
> A lot of people are thinking and
> saying the US has done nothing, but they should
> check out all the projects that have been started
> in the last 10 or 15 years, the government does
> not need to force everybody here to do things,
> efficiency is good for profit, and cooperation is
> better than penalties or fines.
The belief in human caused global warming is being used to gain more control
over the population, to consolidate wealth, to end any sort of freedom of the
masses, and put the whole world in the control of a small group of
elites.
I will believe that human caused global warming is a serious issue when
and only when, nations like China are forced to do something about it.
Right now, things like the Kyoto treaty are designed simply to relocate
manufacturing from places where there _ARE_ environmental protections to
places where there are practically _NONE_. They expect us to believe that
CO2 released in Ohio is bad, but CO2 released in Tianjin is of no
concern. Not to mention all the pollution controls that are required in
Ohio, the limits, the regulations, all to keep the environment cleaner
but simply don't exist in other places in the world like China.
Where people don't even have basic freedoms CO2 doesn't even seem to be
an issue. It's because they don't have an economy to crush so it can be
controlled, because there is no wealth to extract from the people by
taxes or any other means. It's already in the hands of the elite.
And before someone yaps up that poor china cannot afford pollution
controls, look at how much in US dollars alone they hold. They could
easily buy all the modern pollution controls. (which of course would
probably mostly come from US companies and help the US economy)
But it isn't about the environment, it's about power, control, and
wealth.
> The amount of ethanol and biodiesel from
> soy beans alone may amount to more neutral CO2
> fuel than the efforts at conservation or any effort
> by any other country.
Of course. And the US started cleaning things up earlier as well.
> And we have to try to do all this while about
> 2 million people every year abandon their homeland
> to come here to try to find a better life and be free
> of centralized government restrictions and interference
> in their lives.
The whole thing makes more sense when you put it into the context of
destroying the grand experiment in liberty and taking back the wealth
that it created that was better split amung the population than any other
previous nation.
All that said, given the total radiation output of the sun, the warming
of other planets, and other solar and solar system events that are
abnormal to say the least, I have serious doubts that the primary driver is
human produced CO2.
No, I will not argue this tired topic again just because some people got
together to announce their pre-determined conclusions. Google stuff up if
you don't want to believe me.
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