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Old 02-03-2007, 01:50 PM   #110 (permalink)
Bernd Felsche
 
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Re: offering cash to dispute UN climate panel: report

Bill Baka <bbaka@comcast.net> writes:
>donquijote1954 wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 4:37 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:


>>> The belief in human caused global warming is being used to gain
>>> more control over the population, to consolidate wealth, to end
>>> any sort of freedom of the masses, and put the whole world in
>>> the control of a small group of elites.


>> I thought that was the job of Globalization.


>>> I will believe that human caused global warming is a serious issue when
>>> and only when, nations like China are forced to do something about it.
>>> Right now, things like the Kyoto treaty are designed simply to relocate
>>> manufacturing from places where there _ARE_ environmental protections to
>>> places where there are practically _NONE_. They expect us to believe that
>>> CO2 released in Ohio is bad, but CO2 released in Tianjin is of no
>>> concern. Not to mention all the pollution controls that are required in
>>> Ohio, the limits, the regulations, all to keep the environment cleaner
>>> but simply don't exist in other places in the world like China.


>> It's not Kyoto, but America that is feeding China. Go to Walmart or
>> the Dollar Store if you don't believe me.


>Bingo.
>Hit the nail right on the head. Bush can praise our 'progress' while we
>are supporting a Communist country that could care less about pollution.
>Meanwhile they are taking away our jobs while they do their thing, which
>seems to be taking our money.


This is not just consumer-driven. It's also market-driven and an
ethical issue... beyond CO2 etc, but of the value of work.

Put it this way; if you value your own work at $2/day, then feel
free to buy products from a nation where that is the "standard" wage.
However, don't begrudge the people of those countries the fruits of
their labour. Fair prices need to be fair to all. That provides the
greatest incentive and freedom of choice across the range.

I know of no economic or political system that can impose the
necessary balance. Historically; systems that try to impose fairness
become corrupt.

Consumer education is important; giving them sufficient information
on what they are buying, how it is made and who really makes the
money from the products that they buy. Only then can a choice based
on equity be made.
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