| Re: electric bikes on centuries
Bill Baka wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Bill Baka wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: Bill Baka wrote:
:::::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
::::::::: One is not many. And I still think there are better ways to
::::::::: lose weight.
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:::::::: Bzzzt.
::::::
:::::: Bzzzt what?
:::::
::::: What better ways? Weight lifting is hardly cardio, running assumes
::::: one can run, (some of my friends can't anymore) or power walking??
:::
::: Surely you're aren't claiming that bicycling is the BEST way to
::: lose weight, right? One still have to spend some bike to bike and
::: one needs a place to ride. Most adults that I know are very
::: fearful of riding on the road and for the most part, bicycle paths
::: are far and few between. Hence, while likely effective, cycling is
::: hardly the BEST way to lose weight. MTB likewise.
::
:: Hiking mountains can be very effective too, if you have mountains.
:: Try rowing a boat for miles and you will lose weight and have huge
:: biceps. I used to live in a house with the lake for a back yard, and
:: after a day of my idiot boss I blew off steam by rowing my 16' and
:: very heavy boat.
:: I think the bicycle can get you into the explore mode, and even just
:: piddling around at 10 - 12 MPH you can meet people and lose weight.
:: Never do I look at my speedometer/computer and worry about my
:: training heart rate.
:: You say most adults are fearful of riding. They are also fearful of
:: terrorists, the sky is falling, etc.
:: I think we have a bumper crop of cowards.
:: They should be more fearful of a heart attack, which is probably
:: going to kill those who choose not to exercise, maybe tomorrow or 30
:: years from now.
:: I just lost my aunt to a heart attack, but at least she made it to
:: 89. She walked every day but not enough to count for much.
She did good.
:::
::: Simple walking combined with not eating too much is probaby best,
::: which weight lifting thrown in. In fact, weight lifting, while not
::: being cardio, can be a very effective weight loss tool.
::
:: I find it hard to lift weights to the point where my heart rate is
:: up. it builds muscle, no argument there.
:::
Want to get your HR up with weights? Deadlift about 315 lbs for 10 reps
straight with no rests. If that doesn't do it, you're either already doing
more than that or your heart doesn't beat.
::: The best means for losing weight is to simply eat less. By far the
::: least costly, least time consuming, least potentially harmful
::: method.
::
:: Tell that to the people lined up at McDonalds drive through section.
:: It was out to the street when I went by at noon a few days back. Too
:: lazy to park the car AND eating junk food.
:::
I could tell them, but will they listen? The truth of something has little
bearing on whether people will incorporate it as a means to improve.
::: Cycling can be a very effective means of losing weight, as can
::: swimming, running, playing b-ball, or any kind of ball. There are
::: many effective ways of losing weight.
::
:: Swimming is good if you have a place to do it.
:: Running works for me too, not jogging but flat out running. That
:: makes it low impact but I can only sprint for about 2 football
:: fields worth then stop and walk until I recover for the next sprint.
:: Jogging and landing on the heels strikes me as more damaging.
:: Playing ball requires you too have an opponent. I try to get people
:: together for baseball every summer but there is a decided lack of
:: interest among both kids and adults.
Dribble under a goal and shoot/layup. That's moving and is better than any
electric bike at getting off the couch.
:::
::: An electric bike ends up low on the list, IMO.
::
:: Low for actual calories burned but if that gets people off the couch
:: then it is a good thing, right?
Perhaps. But if they never progress, then it's all moot. I think an EB can
easily be too much of a crutch.
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