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02-04-2007, 03:21 PM

Bill Baka wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Bill Baka wrote:
:::::::: Anything that gets one off the couch.
::::::
:::::: You're not making a strong case for an electric bike!

:::::
::::: Come on, read my last line, getting people off the couch in the
::::: first place is a starting point. If an electric assist does it
::::: then maybe they can get addicted to riding and buy a real bike.
:::
::: What, after they have already bought an electric bike, you want
::: them to consider buying a "real" bike? Too funny. Why not just buy
::: a "real" bike and ride it? Just find a piece of flat ground & ride.
::: I started out with simple loops @ less than 5 miles, using gears
::: that make it very easy to turn the cranks.
:::
::: I'm not suggesting that an EB can't be a road away from
::: couchpotatodom, but I'm saying I can think of much better ways to
::: get away.
::
:: I have a 300 pound couch potato (computer addict) friend whom I might
:: get out to ride a bit more if he had the electric to fall back on.
:: He has a nice Cannondale but never rides it. There might be a bit
:: more of an incentive to ride if he knew that if he got fried he
:: could just turn on the electric and get home.

10 to 1 he won't do anything with an EB, either. He full-in into being a CP.
Getting out of that mindset is his biggest challenge. He's got a nice
Cannondale right there that he could take easy rides on. As a practical
matter, he's not going to get fried since it's doubtful he'll push himself.

:::
::::::
::::::::
:::::::: I'm riding tomorrow, whilst all the potatoes watch some dumb
:::::::: football game. The (not so) superbowl clears the roads pretty
:::::::: well every year.
::::::::
::::::
:::::: Good for you. Too bad we have 25 mph winds...makes it too cold.
:::::
::::: Cold has been my enemy too. I went out yesterday and thought I was
::::: really doing good until I got about 5 miles from the house and
::::: realized it was a tailwind, DUH. Coming back was not only slower
::::: but froze my hands while I was getting sweaty. Makes me want
::::: summer back, no layering, just water, pedal and sweat, not
::::: worrying about freezing if I had to walk back due to a failure.
::::: Summer, summer, please.
:::
::: I'm good above 40 degrees with no wind chill, but there always is
::: some here. If the temp is in the 30s, then it's just easier to ride
::: the stationary (though not nearly as enjoyable) & go the gym.
:::
:: I'm not even going to try to debate that issue. Riding in the cold
:: always gets me too hot or too cold. In the summer it is only one
:: thing, as in how much do you want to sweat?

I never notice myself sweating in the summer much on a bike until I stop,
and I try to avoid that. In the winter, you just have to not overdress,
which admittedly can be tricky.

02-04-2007, 03:21 PM	#91 (permalink)
Roger Zoul Posts: n/a	Re: electric bikes on centuries Bill Baka wrote: :: Roger Zoul wrote: ::: Bill Baka wrote: :::::::: Anything that gets one off the couch. :::::: :::::: You're not making a strong case for an electric bike! ::::: ::::: Come on, read my last line, getting people off the couch in the ::::: first place is a starting point. If an electric assist does it ::::: then maybe they can get addicted to riding and buy a real bike. ::: ::: What, after they have already bought an electric bike, you want ::: them to consider buying a "real" bike? Too funny. Why not just buy ::: a "real" bike and ride it? Just find a piece of flat ground & ride. ::: I started out with simple loops @ less than 5 miles, using gears ::: that make it very easy to turn the cranks. ::: ::: I'm not suggesting that an EB can't be a road away from ::: couchpotatodom, but I'm saying I can think of much better ways to ::: get away. :: :: I have a 300 pound couch potato (computer addict) friend whom I might :: get out to ride a bit more if he had the electric to fall back on. :: He has a nice Cannondale but never rides it. There might be a bit :: more of an incentive to ride if he knew that if he got fried he :: could just turn on the electric and get home. 10 to 1 he won't do anything with an EB, either. He full-in into being a CP. Getting out of that mindset is his biggest challenge. He's got a nice Cannondale right there that he could take easy rides on. As a practical matter, he's not going to get fried since it's doubtful he'll push himself. ::: :::::: :::::::: :::::::: I'm riding tomorrow, whilst all the potatoes watch some dumb :::::::: football game. The (not so) superbowl clears the roads pretty :::::::: well every year. :::::::: :::::: :::::: Good for you. Too bad we have 25 mph winds...makes it too cold. ::::: ::::: Cold has been my enemy too. I went out yesterday and thought I was ::::: really doing good until I got about 5 miles from the house and ::::: realized it was a tailwind, DUH. Coming back was not only slower ::::: but froze my hands while I was getting sweaty. Makes me want ::::: summer back, no layering, just water, pedal and sweat, not ::::: worrying about freezing if I had to walk back due to a failure. ::::: Summer, summer, please. ::: ::: I'm good above 40 degrees with no wind chill, but there always is ::: some here. If the temp is in the 30s, then it's just easier to ride ::: the stationary (though not nearly as enjoyable) & go the gym. ::: :: I'm not even going to try to debate that issue. Riding in the cold :: always gets me too hot or too cold. In the summer it is only one :: thing, as in how much do you want to sweat? I never notice myself sweating in the summer much on a bike until I stop, and I try to avoid that. In the winter, you just have to not overdress, which admittedly can be tricky.