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02-04-2007, 03:33 PM

josh@phred.org wrote:
> In article <52n0hjF1p159oU1@mid.individual.net>,
> rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com says...
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+xp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Wayne Pein wrote:
>>>> Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I see as the best use of bike racks on buses is for getting
>>>>> bike users through bike-unfriendly bridges, also a few tunnels
>>>>> that I think are no better for bikes than plenty of bridges!
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as a bike unfriendly bridge or road. It's
>>>> people who are friendly or unfriendly, and they choose be either
>>>> way.
>>>
>>> I don't think that's true. To accommodate more and more traffic, a
>>> number of roads have been widened just enough to provide two lanes
>>> of traffic each way with NO additional space between the cars and
>>> the curb. No matter how friendly a driver might be, there isn't
>>> enough space to pass a bicyclist without moving into the next lane,
>>> which is probably already occupied by a car. This is dangerous for
>>> everybody, and most bicyclists stay off such roads.
>>
>> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>
> Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates
> less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible?

Interstates aint freeways.

02-04-2007, 03:33 PM	#154 (permalink)
Rod Speed Posts: n/a	Re: Buses with racks go a long way josh@phred.org wrote: > In article <52n0hjF1p159oU1@mid.individual.net>, > rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com says... >> The Real Bev <bashley101+xp@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Wayne Pein wrote: >>>> Don Klipstein wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I see as the best use of bike racks on buses is for getting >>>>> bike users through bike-unfriendly bridges, also a few tunnels >>>>> that I think are no better for bikes than plenty of bridges! >>>> >>>> There is no such thing as a bike unfriendly bridge or road. It's >>>> people who are friendly or unfriendly, and they choose be either >>>> way. >>> >>> I don't think that's true. To accommodate more and more traffic, a >>> number of roads have been widened just enough to provide two lanes >>> of traffic each way with NO additional space between the cars and >>> the curb. No matter how friendly a driver might be, there isn't >>> enough space to pass a bicyclist without moving into the next lane, >>> which is probably already occupied by a car. This is dangerous for >>> everybody, and most bicyclists stay off such roads. >> >> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc. > > Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates > less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible? Interstates aint freeways.