11-20-2006, 09:50 AM
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| Guest | Re: Mountain Bikers Really HATE Hearing the Truth!
"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:43:07 GMT, "Andy H" <anywhere@nowhere.baby.com>
> wrote:
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>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>news:4cbvl2doqatdhib94e3bts5l3fgksn4r9a@4ax.com. ..
>>> Careful! Mountain bikers really HATE hearing the truth....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Linda <redrufffox@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:31:57 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: Harvey Manning/Trainers
>>>
>>> I find it counterproductive that some members here seem to participate
>>> in
>>> the very "attitude poisoning" you're talking about in regards to the
>>> hikers
>>> and wilderness preservationists. To me, spewing such nastiness makes
>>> me
>>> leery of joining any advocacy efforts if those are the attitudes of
>>> the primary representatives.
>>>
>>> On 11/16/06, art bbtc <bbtcart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>Yeah the guy was gunning for mt bikers but give him the credit he is
>>>> due. From everything I've heard and read in the past he IS the reason
>>>> why there is a Cougar Mt (and Squak)<<
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Harvey accomplished a lot in regards to preservation and trails
>>>> and I'll give him some credit for that. But, think how much more he
>>>> could have accomplished if instead of alienating other user groups
>>>> with his selfish and hateful agenda he had sought to work together.
>>>>
>>>> We (BBTC) spent the 80's trying to stem the loss of trail access; we
>>>> spent the 90's trying to stay even and rebuild our image; we've spent
>>>> most of this decade struggling to build new trail.
>>>>
>>>> What if Harvey had acknowledged that this new user group was just as
>>>> passionate as he to preserve nature and given us a hand up rather than
>>>> demonizing us with his endless vitriolic diatribes?
>>>>
>>>> How much more could user groups have worked together without his
>>>> attitude poisoning the spirit of cooperation? How many more encounters
>>>> on the trails would have been pleasant interactions instead of a
>>>> scowl? And how many more trails would be enabling the next generation
>>>> of mountain bikers to develop a love for our mountains and trees and a
>>>> passion to preserve that experience.
>>>>
>>>> Yes Harvey accomplished a lot, but when a full accounting is made he
>>>> comes up way short.
>>>>
>>>> -Art
>>> ===
>>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>>
>>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>>> fond of!
>>>
>>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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>>Linda seems to be talking about YOU.
>>
>>"attitude poisoning" - Check
>>"spewing nastiness" - Check
>>
>>IT IS you she's talking about. Foot, shot I think.
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> BS. I just tell the truth. That's neither positive nor negative. It
> just IS.
BS yourself, you wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face,
you're so full of piss and anger it makes me wonder what happened in your
past, where you abused as a child?
You seriously need therapy for that anger projection thing you got going on,
but I feel as you fade into your later years that it's probably too late for
it to do any good.
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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