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11-22-2006, 08:32 AM

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:17:10 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
<baggio94@telus.net> wrote:

>"The distinction between "fair use" and infringement may be unclear and not
>easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that
>may safely be taken without permission.
>Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for
>obtaining permission.
>Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>the work.
>The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner
>before using copyrighted material."
>
>
>Don't skirt these questions:
>- did you ask for permission to use the copyrighted material?

I don't know if it's copyrighted. Fair use gives me the right to use
it.

>- has the owner asked you to remove the material, and have you complied?

I have no idea who the owner is, nor do you.

>By the way, what is depicted is NOT unlawful; your argument for the use of
>the copyrighted material is invalid.
>
>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:ndb6m2d6m7e7j73f726u3mhcu49adrncus@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:27:35 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
>> <baggio94@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I've already proven you to be a LIAR, which means that your statement
>>>below
>>>is a LIE.
>>>
>>>I see you also publish photographs illegally, like those watermarked ones
>>>on
>>>your website.
>>
>> That's a LIE. Look up "fair use" under copyright law. I have a right
>> to post copyrighted material in order to expose unlawful abuses of the
>> environment. So does everyone. You just don't want your abuses made
>> public! TOUGH!
>>
>> Not only do you spread lies and totally inaccurate
>>>information, you break the law in order to do so.
>>>
>>>You're a legend in your own mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jem3m2dfg200a1mgdabtfkkh3tkkmkui08@4ax.com ...
>>>> BS. I just tell the truth. That's neither positive nor negative. It
>>>> just IS.
>>>
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> fond of!
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

11-22-2006, 08:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mike Vandeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mountain Bikers Really HATE Hearing the Truth! On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:17:10 GMT, "Roberto Baggio" <baggio94@telus.net> wrote: >"The distinction between "fair use" and infringement may be unclear and not >easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that >may safely be taken without permission. >Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for >obtaining permission. >Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it >does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in >the work. >The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner >before using copyrighted material." > > >Don't skirt these questions: >- did you ask for permission to use the copyrighted material? I don't know if it's copyrighted. Fair use gives me the right to use it. >- has the owner asked you to remove the material, and have you complied? I have no idea who the owner is, nor do you. >By the way, what is depicted is NOT unlawful; your argument for the use of >the copyrighted material is invalid. > > >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message >news:ndb6m2d6m7e7j73f726u3mhcu49adrncus@4ax.com.. . >> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:27:35 GMT, "Roberto Baggio" >> <baggio94@telus.net> wrote: >> >>>I've already proven you to be a LIAR, which means that your statement >>>below >>>is a LIE. >>> >>>I see you also publish photographs illegally, like those watermarked ones >>>on >>>your website. >> >> That's a LIE. Look up "fair use" under copyright law. I have a right >> to post copyrighted material in order to expose unlawful abuses of the >> environment. So does everyone. You just don't want your abuses made >> public! TOUGH! >> >> Not only do you spread lies and totally inaccurate >>>information, you break the law in order to do so. >>> >>>You're a legend in your own mind. >>> >>> >>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message >>>news:jem3m2dfg200a1mgdabtfkkh3tkkmkui08@4ax.com ... >>>> BS. I just tell the truth. That's neither positive nor negative. It >>>> just IS. >>> >> === >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) >> >> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are >> fond of! >> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande > === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande