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Old 01-05-2007, 06:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
Mike Vandeman
 
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Re: Another Mountain Biker Dies in a Crash!

On 5 Jan 2007 05:05:23 -0800, "Marz" <marzjennings@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On 4 Jan 2007 11:25:35 -0800, "Marz" <marzjennings@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> >> Mountain bikers claim that mountain biking decreases auto dependence,
>> >> but he was driving a car. Hmmm.
>> >
>> >
>> >You're getting desperate Mikey. Cycling in general does decrease auto
>> >dependence, but mountain biking is an activity that takes place in
>> >areas where, in general, cars don't go.

>>
>> So it INCREASES auto dependence. Because you guys are too lazy to ride
>> to the trailhead.

>
>Yes Mikey, very clever, mountain biking for some (not all mountain
>bikers) requires transportation to a trail head, park, woodland, etc.
>But so does hiking, trail running, tennis, football, eating out, going
>to the movies or meeting friends.


Nonsense. You missed the point Most of that can be satisfied in the
city or in local parks that you can walk to. Mountain biking, on the
other hand, can't be done there.

It's funny how when we want to go do
>stuff we usually need transportation to get there and for some that's a
>car.
>
>When I lived in Houston I used to ride Memorial trails most weekends, I
>lived about 7 miles from the trails and I used to ride there.


Implying that you now drive to the trailhead. The point is that
mountain bikers don't really care about the environment, even though
they CLAIM to.

In fact
>most of the riders I knew rode there from their homes. All the hikers,
>dog walkers and trail runners I knew drove there from their homes, some
>of whom only lived about 3 miles away. So from my limited experience
>hikers are more auto dependent than mountain bikers. I wonder if this
>trend is the norm?


Let me know when you get some real data.

>If we all stayed at home with our mum like you I guess we wouldn't need
>cars.
>
>Laters,
>
>Marz

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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