02-05-2007, 04:38 PM
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#51 (permalink)
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:25:38 -0500, "S Curtiss" <stevecurtiss@cox.net>
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>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:4pcds21obha6o4hnao8359g2m5bmqjo7pc@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:29:31 -0700, "TJ" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
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>>>> Of course. Just A LOT LESS than any mountain biker. A hiker can and
>>>> will step over an animal on the trail. A mountain biker most likely
>>>> will never even know it was there, and will certainly crush it. There
>>>> are examples in zoological museums.
>>>> ===
>>>Can you please give me an address where I may view the specimens you claim
>>>are in zoological museums. I do not believe you have the credentials to
>>>make such claims.
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>> You don't need "credentials" to see the obvious. The tags on the
>> snakes say "killed by a mountain biker". DUH!
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>>>Have the specimens been peer reviewed, and judged by scientific method to
>>>have been "ran over" as you americans say.
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>> Yes.
>Who did the review or examination? Where? When? Where are the actual
>documents on results?
>Are you going to answer his DIRECT question? He asked you for a physical
>ADDRESS to view these alleged specimens.
Find them yourselves. I don't want them stolen.
>As have I:
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>"Thats a laugh! You say they exist therefore it is on you to provide the
>PROOF. Your statement "They must be pretty common" is an assumption based on
>your OPINION. I've been riding for years and haven't come across an animal
>that shows signs it was killed by a cyclist. It is rare to find a dead
>animal along the trail killed by any means. You can either provide the
>scientific and conclusive evidence from this biologist (a name, and facility
>association as well) or you are claiming something you can not prove.
>"Because you say so" is not evidence. If you were HONEST, you would have NO
>DIFFICULTY providing this proof.
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>>>>>This is, as it has always been, an example you CLAIM proves off-road
>>>>>cyclist
>>>>>behavior but you have no REAL EVIDENCE. Your word means NOTHING.
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>>>>>>>Beyond that you are AGAIN avoiding the DIRECT questions:
>>>>>>>What examples? Which museums? Which ones are labeled "destroyed" or
>>>>>>>"crushed" by "mountain bikers"? Which ones have documents showing they
>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>definately killed by mountain bikers? Which ones document eye witness
>>>>>>>accounts of the death by "mountain bikers"?
>>>>>STILL NO ANSWER TO DIRECT QUESTIONS ON POINT AND PROOF.
>>>>>And that speaks VOLUMES on your credibility as a LIAR.
>>>STILL NO ANSWER on a direct point YOU MADE. YOU stated "There are examples
>>>in zoological museums". So, go ahead, which examples...? Which
>>>museums...? If there are examples, then it should be easy for you to
>>>supply the names.
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>> If you were smart (or cared), you would already know that information.
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>Sorry - my "Kreskin Skills" are limited when it comes to devining
>information from morons. YOU say it is there. If you honestly thought your
>statements were true, you would gladly offer real information to support
>them instead of trying to sidetrack and misdirect inquiries.So.... Either
>provide proof of your statements or, by not doing so, provide the proof you
>are lying
>That should be easy to grasp by someone with a PhD... Even if it is on fast
>food preperation. "
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>So which is it? Definate proof with names, addresses, specimen names and
>location / case / reference / number. Something TANGIBLE that can be
>verified.
>This should be EASY if it is actual.
>
>Either provide real and verifiable evidence to support your statements
>concerning these "animals" or, by not doing so, acknowledge you are a liar.
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>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> fond of!
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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