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02-08-2007, 05:23 PM

In article <45cb56e9$0$24693$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Wayne Pein wrote:
>Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>> In article <45ca0bfa$0$5056$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Wayne Pein wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Oh no, here we go again! "Giving" cyclists their own lane is like
>>>putting American Indians on their own reservations. It's really being
>>>friendly to motorists.
>>
>>
>> How then do you rate what all has happened to the West Philadelphia
>> portion of Walnut Street?
>>
>> That street used to have 3 lanes, except 4 during evening rush hour,
>> all westbound. The street is one way westbound with the right curb lane
>> in the past being a traffic lane during evening rush as opposed to being a
>> parking lane.
>>
>> Now the curb lane is a parking lane 24/7. The next-rightmost lane is
>> now a bike lane. The remaining two traffic lanes got widened (the
>> previously designated lanes were on the narrow side) due to one traffic
>> lane being restricted to bikes.
>>
>> So now that the parking got increased at a time when Phi8ladelphia
>> decided to tolerate double parking, the bike lane sometimes has cars
>> parked on it.
>
>OK, so here's a situation where it was made worse for both street users.

When I find times that the bike lane is lacking double parked cars, it
sure is a lot easier for bikes than it was before the bike lane was put in
place. All Philadelphia needs is a little traffic law enforcement.

Even with the usual rate of double parked cars, Walnut St is a little
more favorable for bikes than before. Yoy snipped out where I said that
to say Walnut Street got worse for both street users. For reference, the
article where I said that and which you above quoted in part is
<slrnesl3on.ljh.don@manx.misty.com>

Let me tell you what life for me on a bike is like on a busy
Philadelphia street without a bike lane if the lanes are on the narow
side. This is the current situation on the portion of Chestnut Street
west of 38th. Roughly once a year a car grazes me or a car's right side
mirror taps my posterior!

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

02-08-2007, 05:23 PM	#514 (permalink)
Don Klipstein Posts: n/a	Re: Buses with racks go a long way In article <45cb56e9$0$24693$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Wayne Pein wrote: >Don Klipstein wrote: > >> In article <45ca0bfa$0$5056$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Wayne Pein wrote: > >>> >>>Oh no, here we go again! "Giving" cyclists their own lane is like >>>putting American Indians on their own reservations. It's really being >>>friendly to motorists. >> >> >> How then do you rate what all has happened to the West Philadelphia >> portion of Walnut Street? >> >> That street used to have 3 lanes, except 4 during evening rush hour, >> all westbound. The street is one way westbound with the right curb lane >> in the past being a traffic lane during evening rush as opposed to being a >> parking lane. >> >> Now the curb lane is a parking lane 24/7. The next-rightmost lane is >> now a bike lane. The remaining two traffic lanes got widened (the >> previously designated lanes were on the narrow side) due to one traffic >> lane being restricted to bikes. >> >> So now that the parking got increased at a time when Phi8ladelphia >> decided to tolerate double parking, the bike lane sometimes has cars >> parked on it. > >OK, so here's a situation where it was made worse for both street users. When I find times that the bike lane is lacking double parked cars, it sure is a lot easier for bikes than it was before the bike lane was put in place. All Philadelphia needs is a little traffic law enforcement. Even with the usual rate of double parked cars, Walnut St is a little more favorable for bikes than before. Yoy snipped out where I said that to say Walnut Street got worse for both street users. For reference, the article where I said that and which you above quoted in part is <slrnesl3on.ljh.don@manx.misty.com> Let me tell you what life for me on a bike is like on a busy Philadelphia street without a bike lane if the lanes are on the narow side. This is the current situation on the portion of Chestnut Street west of 38th. Roughly once a year a car grazes me or a car's right side mirror taps my posterior! - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)