| Re: "Humans 'very likely' making earth warmer" is wrong Rod Speed wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101+xp@gmail.com> wrote
>> Bill Baka wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Bill Baka <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote
>
>>>>> Bad choices is electing politicians who don't have a clue, or those
>>>>> who should have retired long ago. I didn't invent welfare but those
>>>>> that are on it have obviously learned how to milk the system.
>>>> That will happen with any welfare system with some of them.
>
>>>>> Now that we have a glut of school aged children
>
>>>> No you dont.
>
>>>>> everybody is complaining about not enough schools,
>
>>>> No they arent.
>
>> They've been complaining about crowded schools since I was a child.
>
> They have indeed.
>
>> We managed to learn to read even in what I discovered later was a lower-middle-class school with
>> 35 students in each class.
>
> Yep, and plenty of the catholic systemic schools managed
> to do that with even higher numbers per class too.
Yeah, but they could threaten the kids with eternal damnation if they
behaved badly. The worst public schools can do is put an entry in your
permanent record.
>> Between then and now, something has gone wrong with either teaching or teachers
>
> Nope, the real problem is the parents.
Not necessarily. When I was a kid parents were actively discouraged
from involving themselves in their children's education -- "Let the
experts take care of it." I'm glad I learned to read before I started
school, and we made sure our kids could too.
> You still see the kids of asian immigrants learning to read fine today.
>
> Essentially because their parents make sure they do.
Yes. OTOH, when the teachers are primarily concerned with keeping their
jobs, working less and being paid more, the involvement of
marginally-literate immigrant parents can't do an awful lot. I blame
the unions for making it impossible to weed out the incompetents.
> And it aint just reading either, its their school results in general too.
>
>> and it has nothing to do with the number of kids/class.
>
> Indeed.
>
> There can be a problem with a class full of the absolute dregs
> of society who have no interest in learning anything and who are
> only interested in stopping anyone else from learning anything tho.
Everybody who cares and can afford it sends their kids to private
school. The public schools have what's left. There's currently a plan
afoot to establish a magnet school for outside-the-district "problem"
children (physically/mentally/economically/morally disadvantaged) as a
way of raising money, which, if current practices are followed, will be
spent on resort "retreats" for school management.
The board of education, after extending his contract for two years,
fired the superintendent a few months later -- seems he plagiarized a
document he found on the net, giving the impression that a
frequently-used statement was invented by himself. Since he had sued
his previous school district, the board of education paid him his
excpected salary plus something extra if he promised not to sue.
I've never seen a more compelling argument for "throw the bastards out."
The teachers are no better, just paid less.
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Cheers, Bev
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