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02-10-2007, 10:05 AM

"bdbafh" <bdbafh@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 10, 9:50 am, "Gooserider" <Gooseri...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> "Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5361efF1r65iqU1@mid.individual.net...
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>>
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>> > I fail to
>> >> see how a cyclist wearing earphones removes him from the environment
>> >> any
>> >> more than a motorcyclist wearing a helmet, or a motorist in a luxury
>> >> car
>> >> with the radio turned up.
>>
>> > It's because the motorist is protected by a steel cage and the cyclist
>> > is
>> > many times more vulnerable. That's what makes it "stupid."
>>
>> Moreso than the MOTORCYCLIST? People on Harleys with loud pipes and
>> helmets
>> can't hear a thing.
>
> Loud is safe.
>
> The louder the hawg, the more that the motorists are aware of its
> presence.
>
> I've found that a booming voice is far more effective than a measly
> bell when notifying a moron behind the wheel as to their errant ways.
>
> Airhorn, anyone?
>
> -bdbafh
>

That must be why I see so many bikers missing left legs, because people hear
them enough not to turn in front of them. Not. The loud pipes save lives
argument is overblown. And with the soundproofing of today's vehichles, your
"booming voice" isn't likely to register over the radio and air
conditioning.

02-10-2007, 10:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
Gooserider Posts: n/a	Re: New York wants to outlaw iPods for cyclers!?!? "bdbafh" <bdbafh@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130866.356990.238880@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > On Feb 10, 9:50 am, "Gooserider" <Gooseri...@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >> "Pat" <P...@faraway.com> wrote in message >> >> news:5361efF1r65iqU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> >> >> > I fail to >> >> see how a cyclist wearing earphones removes him from the environment >> >> any >> >> more than a motorcyclist wearing a helmet, or a motorist in a luxury >> >> car >> >> with the radio turned up. >> >> > It's because the motorist is protected by a steel cage and the cyclist >> > is >> > many times more vulnerable. That's what makes it "stupid." >> >> Moreso than the MOTORCYCLIST? People on Harleys with loud pipes and >> helmets >> can't hear a thing. > > Loud is safe. > > The louder the hawg, the more that the motorists are aware of its > presence. > > I've found that a booming voice is far more effective than a measly > bell when notifying a moron behind the wheel as to their errant ways. > > Airhorn, anyone? > > -bdbafh > That must be why I see so many bikers missing left legs, because people hear them enough not to turn in front of them. Not. The loud pipes save lives argument is overblown. And with the soundproofing of today's vehichles, your "booming voice" isn't likely to register over the radio and air conditioning.