| Re: "Humans 'very likely' making earth warmer" is wrong
Joe Fischer wrote:
> On Sat, Bill Baka <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> ..........
>> With 9 billion people all competing for space and paving
>> over every thing in sight,
>
> You need to get out more, except for a few places
> like close to Manhattan, Los Angeles, Miami, etc., people
> often get lost in the woods.
The woods are getting harder to find.
>
>> plus deforestation,
>
> There are a lot more trees being planted than
> cut down, the big deforestation period was the century
> before coal was available at low cost.
I once read that there were woods in the 'now' prairies until settlers
came and 'tamed' the land. One book I read was dated 1911 and titled
"Man's control of the environment" and it was lamenting the loss of
natural primeval patches of forest. An environmental book a hundred
years ago. Who would have thought?? Obviously nobody paid attention.
As far as deforestation I was talking about the rain forests and other
areas that are having a population boom. If a few hundred square miles
of rain forest are burned do you think planting a few token trees is
going to make a difference?
>
>> plus the jet travel,
>> something will have to give.
>
> Because of a lack of affordable energy, not
> a lack of space. It was 30 F here this afternoon,
> and driving past the cement plant, I turned off the
> climate control in my car to prevent the white dust
> on the road near the cement plant getting in the car,
> and when I turned it back on, the air conditioning
> came on for a minute, the sun was warming the
> car, but it wasn't noticeable with automatic climate
> control.
>
> That makes me wonder, on a cold morning
> I set the climate control for 78 F, could that be what
> they are talking about on TV, I used to set it at 74.
I really don't think "Global warming" is the issue as much as "Global
smog". People have noticed in wooded areas that where once you could see
forever, now there is a permanent haze in the air, ahh, Globally.
>
>> It will either be starvation, war, or a
>> fast spreading new disease, but something WILL happen.
>
> It always has, but the conditions that are a problem
> today is almost total reliance on the commercial sector
> for space heating, and in cold country, that can be a
> big problem at any moment.
>
> A least with a big house, when things get
> really cold and there is no electric, oil, or natural gas,
> one or two rooms might be enough wood to last
> the rest of the winter when it will be warm enough
> to start walking south. :-)
>
> Joe Fischer
>
You don't need to tell me. I owned a 3,500 square foot house north of
Minneapolis and had 4 different types of heat. Propane, oil, electric
and wood burning stoves. I thought that was overkill until it got down
to 25 below zero and actually need to use 3 out of 4 to keep the house
anywhere near warm. I loved the snow but hated how much I had to spend
to keep it warm. Needless to say I moved back to California. I went
through about 3 cords of wood per month in addition to the rest.
Global what?
Not up there.
I think that it will be globally wild swings in the weather.
As far as we humans are concerned, I think that all the business and
vacation travel might spread some really nasty virus world wide. The flu
pandemic of 1918 would have killed maybe a billion today since we now
have the means to be anywhere on earth within about 12 hours on a plane.
Bill Baka
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