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02-13-2007, 03:48 AM

landotter wrote:
:: On Feb 10, 7:56 am, "Gooserider" <Gooseri...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
::: "BobT" <robertleetaylo...@MoveThisCox.net> wrote in message
:::
::: news:arjzh.57293$qy.8057@newsfe16.lga...
:::
:::
:::
:::: "Gorgeous George" <gorgeous.geor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
:::: news:1171106831.734099.195910@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
::::: WTF is this...
:::
::::: http://tinyurl.com/2mea2m
:::
:::: My libertarian streak makes me think this is a bad law, however
:::: anyone that wears earphones playing music while cycling on a road
:::: shared with other vehicles is quite foolish.
:::
:::: A modest proposal: Perhaps there should be a law that requires
:::: anyone injured while engaging in this particularly stupid activity
:::: should only get medical treatment if they pay for it themselves.
:::: This would achieve the goal of protecting the public at large from
:::: this person's poor judgement but would not infringe on individual
:::: freedom with the only goal of "protecting people from themselves".
:::
:::: Please do not respond unless you agree with me.
:::
:::: Ready, set, and go.
:::
:::: BobT
:::
::: Sorry, Bob, but I'm going to respond(and doesn't your request
::: negate your 'libertarian' streak?). Wearing earphones while cycling
::: is already illegal in most places, but that doesn't mean the
::: activity is "stupid". I fail to see how a cyclist wearing earphones
::: removes him from the environment any more than a motorcyclist
::: wearing a helmet, or a motorist in a luxury car with the radio
::: turned up.
::
:: You're not thinking hard enough, then. It's virtually impossible to
:: use headphones at a reasonable volume when you have to overcome wind
:: noise, so the vast majority of cyclists wearing 'phones have them at
:: a volume that's the equivalent of a car stereo that's so loud that it
:: would get you pulled over.

Nonsense. Do you have even one cite that backs you up on what the "vast
majority" does? Get real.

That's right--most sane cities have laws
:: against egregious car stereo volume as well.
::
:: Oh, and Bob, suggesting the withholding of medical treatment to
:: somebody that's stupid enough to wear headphones and get hit makes
:: you an *******. Bragging about a "libertarian streak" beforehand
:: makes you pitiful. Perhaps you should stick to the Ayn Rand and
:: Push-Up creamsicles, and stay off the Usenet.

True!

::
:: The whole headphone debate is not a bit different from listening to a
:: drunk stagger to the door and slur, "but I'm fine to drive, hic."

Nonsense.

02-13-2007, 03:48 AM	#35 (permalink)
Roger Zoul Posts: n/a	Re: New York wants to outlaw iPods for cyclers!?!? landotter wrote: :: On Feb 10, 7:56 am, "Gooserider" <Gooseri...@mouse-potato.com> wrote: ::: "BobT" <robertleetaylo...@MoveThisCox.net> wrote in message ::: ::: news:arjzh.57293$qy.8057@newsfe16.lga... ::: ::: ::: :::: "Gorgeous George" <gorgeous.geor...@gmail.com> wrote in message :::: news:1171106831.734099.195910@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com... ::::: WTF is this... ::: ::::: http://tinyurl.com/2mea2m ::: :::: My libertarian streak makes me think this is a bad law, however :::: anyone that wears earphones playing music while cycling on a road :::: shared with other vehicles is quite foolish. ::: :::: A modest proposal: Perhaps there should be a law that requires :::: anyone injured while engaging in this particularly stupid activity :::: should only get medical treatment if they pay for it themselves. :::: This would achieve the goal of protecting the public at large from :::: this person's poor judgement but would not infringe on individual :::: freedom with the only goal of "protecting people from themselves". ::: :::: Please do not respond unless you agree with me. ::: :::: Ready, set, and go. ::: :::: BobT ::: ::: Sorry, Bob, but I'm going to respond(and doesn't your request ::: negate your 'libertarian' streak?). Wearing earphones while cycling ::: is already illegal in most places, but that doesn't mean the ::: activity is "stupid". I fail to see how a cyclist wearing earphones ::: removes him from the environment any more than a motorcyclist ::: wearing a helmet, or a motorist in a luxury car with the radio ::: turned up. :: :: You're not thinking hard enough, then. It's virtually impossible to :: use headphones at a reasonable volume when you have to overcome wind :: noise, so the vast majority of cyclists wearing 'phones have them at :: a volume that's the equivalent of a car stereo that's so loud that it :: would get you pulled over. Nonsense. Do you have even one cite that backs you up on what the "vast majority" does? Get real. That's right--most sane cities have laws :: against egregious car stereo volume as well. :: :: Oh, and Bob, suggesting the withholding of medical treatment to :: somebody that's stupid enough to wear headphones and get hit makes :: you an *******. Bragging about a "libertarian streak" beforehand :: makes you pitiful. Perhaps you should stick to the Ayn Rand and :: Push-Up creamsicles, and stay off the Usenet. True! :: :: The whole headphone debate is not a bit different from listening to a :: drunk stagger to the door and slur, "but I'm fine to drive, hic." Nonsense.