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02-13-2007, 06:06 AM

Bill Baka wrote:
:: dave28c@mac.com wrote:
::: On Feb 10, 3:27 am, "Gorgeous George" <gorgeous.geor...@gmail.com>
::: wrote:
:::: WTF is this...
::::
:::: http://tinyurl.com/2mea2m
:::
:::
::: California Vehicle Code section 27,400 makes it illegal for either a
::: motorist or bicyclist to wear "earphones." I don't know if iPod's
::: "earbuds" would be considered "earphones," but I'd certainly argue
::: they were not.
:::
::: You can look up the text of the statute on findlaw.com.
:::
::: Dave
:::
:: Anything that impairs your hearing would be in that category but hey,
:: those who just have to have music in their ears and ignore the world
:: may just get Darwin'ed out. Scenario #1. A car goes out of control
:: and you don't hear people shouting "Look out!"....Splat.

And what makes you think something else, like wind noise, won't prevent you
from hearing them. A person should simply had bad hearing or not be paying
attention to someone shouting.

:: #2. A television set gets knocked out of a tenth floor window by
:: 'Fluffy' the cat and once again you don't hear the warning.
:: #3. You are so into the music that you start to walk across the
:: railroad tracks and don't hear the high speed commuter
:: train....Splat.

You can be so into "thoughts" that the same thing could happen. You gonna
ban thinking? You could be talking to someone. Same thing.

:: Does this make a point?
:: Often our ears are the first or only sense to a threat, and if you
:: can't hear you might just earn a free trip to the next world.
:: Bill Baka

It's just so stupid to think that someone wearing earbugs can't hear what's
going on. Are we going to test everyone to ensure that we all have
adequate hearing? If not, then we simply have no way of knowing if we all
hear the same thing. And you can't keep people from thinking or being
distracted by something else.

How easy it is for us to give up personal liberty because of nonsensical
thinking.

02-13-2007, 06:06 AM	#41 (permalink)
Roger Zoul Posts: n/a	Re: New York wants to outlaw iPods for cyclers!?!? Bill Baka wrote: :: dave28c@mac.com wrote: ::: On Feb 10, 3:27 am, "Gorgeous George" <gorgeous.geor...@gmail.com> ::: wrote: :::: WTF is this... :::: :::: http://tinyurl.com/2mea2m ::: ::: ::: California Vehicle Code section 27,400 makes it illegal for either a ::: motorist or bicyclist to wear "earphones." I don't know if iPod's ::: "earbuds" would be considered "earphones," but I'd certainly argue ::: they were not. ::: ::: You can look up the text of the statute on findlaw.com. ::: ::: Dave ::: :: Anything that impairs your hearing would be in that category but hey, :: those who just have to have music in their ears and ignore the world :: may just get Darwin'ed out. Scenario #1. A car goes out of control :: and you don't hear people shouting "Look out!"....Splat. And what makes you think something else, like wind noise, won't prevent you from hearing them. A person should simply had bad hearing or not be paying attention to someone shouting. :: #2. A television set gets knocked out of a tenth floor window by :: 'Fluffy' the cat and once again you don't hear the warning. :: #3. You are so into the music that you start to walk across the :: railroad tracks and don't hear the high speed commuter :: train....Splat. You can be so into "thoughts" that the same thing could happen. You gonna ban thinking? You could be talking to someone. Same thing. :: Does this make a point? :: Often our ears are the first or only sense to a threat, and if you :: can't hear you might just earn a free trip to the next world. :: Bill Baka It's just so stupid to think that someone wearing earbugs can't hear what's going on. Are we going to test everyone to ensure that we all have adequate hearing? If not, then we simply have no way of knowing if we all hear the same thing. And you can't keep people from thinking or being distracted by something else. How easy it is for us to give up personal liberty because of nonsensical thinking.