02-13-2007, 06:47 AM
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#45 (permalink)
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Bill Baka wrote:
:: Gooserider wrote:
::: "Daryl Hunt" <dhunt@colwestnospam.com> wrote in message
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:::: "Gooserider" <Gooserider@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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::::: "BobT" <robertleetaylorRe@MoveThisCox.net> wrote in message
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:::::: "Gorgeous George" <gorgeous.georgey@gmail.com> wrote in message
:::::: news:1171106831.734099.195910@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
::::::: WTF is this...
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::::::: http://tinyurl.com/2mea2m
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:::::: My libertarian streak makes me think this is a bad law, however
:::::: anyone that wears earphones playing music while cycling on a
:::::: road shared with other vehicles is quite foolish.
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:::::: A modest proposal: Perhaps there should be a law that requires
:::::: anyone injured while engaging in this particularly stupid
:::::: activity should only get medical treatment if they pay for it
:::::: themselves. This would achieve the goal of protecting the
:::::: public at large from this person's poor judgement but would not
:::::: infringe on individual freedom with the only goal of "protecting
:::::: people from themselves".
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:::::: Please do not respond unless you agree with me.
::::::
:::::: Ready, set, and go.
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:::::: BobT
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::::: Sorry, Bob, but I'm going to respond(and doesn't your request
::::: negate your 'libertarian' streak?). Wearing earphones while
::::: cycling is already illegal in most places, but that doesn't mean
::::: the activity is "stupid". I fail to see how a cyclist wearing
::::: earphones removes him from the environment any more than a
::::: motorcyclist wearing a helmet, or a motorist in a luxury car with
::::: the radio turned up. Cyclists are more likely to be hit in
::::: intersections than from behind. Even IF you happen to hear a car
::::: coming up behind you---what are the chances one can dodge to the
::::: right to avoid the hit?
:::: I was a MCylists for decades. The Helmet doesn't stop you from
:::: hearing. Most Helmets are designed to allow full hearing. Now, if
:::: you make one out of Tin Foil and Superglue then it will obstruct
:::: your hearing.
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:::: Now, if you do have such a helmet that obstructs the hearing it's
:::: against the NHTA safety Regs and can get you cited and have your
:::: insurance revoked upon a cop noticing.
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:::: One must be able to hear. Especially if you are on two wheels.
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::: I seriously doubt someone with a full face helmet going 55mph can
::: hear much at all. Then there are the Harley guys with loud pipes
::: and half helmets. They're effectively deaf. Hearing is
::: overrated----unless you think deaf people shouldn't be able to ride
::: bicycles.
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:::
:: Different scene entirely. On a motorcycle you mainly want to see far
:: enough ahead to avoid something. The odds of getting rear ended on a
:: motorcycle at speed are far less than on a bike.
The odds of getting creamed while on a motorcycle in an intersection are
significant.
:: Bill Baka
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