| Re: logistics associated with starting a new riding group? On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:39:31 -0500, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>On 15 Feb 2007 11:05:57 -0800, "Prisoner at War"
><prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 15, 7:02 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>>wrote:
>>> On 14 Feb 2007 22:36:39 -0800, "Prisoner at War"
>>>
>>> <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >I'd really like to meet the asses who started the whole "a
>>> >bike is a vehicle" mentality,
>>>
>>> I didn't start it but strongly agree with it. W/o it we'd have even
>>> more limited rights on the road.
>>> --
>>
>>I must disagree. AFAIK, bicyclists have always had road rights, as do
>>even pedestrians.
>
>Even pedestrians?
>Really? So you can just walk down a typical road or street as much as
>you want - no need to be on the sidewalk? I did not know that.
Many highways (used in the technical sense) either
a) include the pavement set aside for pedestrians; or
b) have no such pavement, and all traffic uses the road surface.
Now of course, there are differences in the details depending on the
jurisdiction, but the essential difference which results in cyclists
(and pedestrians) having a _right_ to use the roads and drivers of
motor-cars having merely a _permission_, is that driving a motor-car
is not permitted unless the individual who wishes to do so asks to do
so, pays some form of fee to do so, and undergoes various tests to
determine if he or she should be allowed to do so; whereas the
cyclists' (and pedestrians') right to use the roads exists ab initio. |