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06-29-2003, 03:19 PM

Rico X. Partay wrote:
> A survey? Would that settle the issue for you? My use of
> words like "rather" and "seems" were a clue -- I formed my
> opinions by following the issue for years. There's no "data" that
> can prove anything one way or the other. It's a big gray area. I
> was just trying to indicate that it's not all as cut and dried as
> you and some people think. Forgive me for trying to expand the
> discussion. By all means let's stick to being upset and stating
> arbitrary, absolute rules that apply to everyone and every
> situation.

Your opinions are fine, but ipse dixit.

>>Austin American-Statesman 29 Sept 01
>>The protest turned into a melee when
>>Mike Henderson, frustrated by the
>>delay, drove his Jeep Wrangler into
>>the intersection. He narrowly missed
>>several bicyclists but hit the front
>>end of Krissy Morrow's Honda Civic.
>>"I was probably in the wrong," said
>>Henderson, who acknowledged driving
>>into the crowd of bicyclists.
>>Henderson, who said he was beaten by
>>four bicyclists, was charged with
>>reckless driving, said Austin police
>>spokesman Paul Flanigan.
>
> It should have been attempted murder.

For the four CM terrorists who assaulted the guy in the Jeep?

>>It's not about safety when you tie
>>up traffic and beat drivers.
>
> It's very much about safety when some moron gets so angry
> because he's delay for a few minutes that he tries to kill people.

He had right of way.

>>Some of those drivers have bad impressions
>>of cyclists based upon experiences with
>>Critical Mass.
>
> Some cyclists have bad impressions of drivers based on a
> lifetime of cycling.

You don't have to tell me about bad drivers. As I said, I commute by
bike -- rain or shine. I've had stuff thrown at me (including an
unopened soda can that missed my head by a couple inches), swerved at,
cussed out, you name it. I even encountered one jerk who actually got
out of his vehicle and tried to start a fight.

It's bad regardless who's breaking the law. The difference in the case I
showed above is the people from CM got together specifically to break
the law. The guy in the Jeep just wanted to go home.

06-29-2003, 03:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
cyclist101 Posts: n/a	Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks Rico X. Partay wrote: > A survey? Would that settle the issue for you? My use of > words like "rather" and "seems" were a clue -- I formed my > opinions by following the issue for years. There's no "data" that > can prove anything one way or the other. It's a big gray area. I > was just trying to indicate that it's not all as cut and dried as > you and some people think. Forgive me for trying to expand the > discussion. By all means let's stick to being upset and stating > arbitrary, absolute rules that apply to everyone and every > situation. Your opinions are fine, but ipse dixit. >>Austin American-Statesman 29 Sept 01 >>The protest turned into a melee when >>Mike Henderson, frustrated by the >>delay, drove his Jeep Wrangler into >>the intersection. He narrowly missed >>several bicyclists but hit the front >>end of Krissy Morrow's Honda Civic. >>"I was probably in the wrong," said >>Henderson, who acknowledged driving >>into the crowd of bicyclists. >>Henderson, who said he was beaten by >>four bicyclists, was charged with >>reckless driving, said Austin police >>spokesman Paul Flanigan. > > It should have been attempted murder. For the four CM terrorists who assaulted the guy in the Jeep? >>It's not about safety when you tie >>up traffic and beat drivers. > > It's very much about safety when some moron gets so angry > because he's delay for a few minutes that he tries to kill people. He had right of way. >>Some of those drivers have bad impressions >>of cyclists based upon experiences with >>Critical Mass. > > Some cyclists have bad impressions of drivers based on a > lifetime of cycling. You don't have to tell me about bad drivers. As I said, I commute by bike -- rain or shine. I've had stuff thrown at me (including an unopened soda can that missed my head by a couple inches), swerved at, cussed out, you name it. I even encountered one jerk who actually got out of his vehicle and tried to start a fight. It's bad regardless who's breaking the law. The difference in the case I showed above is the people from CM got together specifically to break the law. The guy in the Jeep just wanted to go home.