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06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 01:39 PM	#103 (permalink)
Roger Zoul Posts: n/a	Re: Ride with music or not? David Reuteler wrote: :: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: ::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was ::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason ::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the ::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha. ::: ::: Not all lossy compression is created equal.... :: :: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc :: players is in general BETTER than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s :: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound :: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were :: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly :: sound worse. With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound... :: ::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours ::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a ::: bike ride). :: :: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent, :: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point .. :: battery powered is nice while touring. And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)