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06-07-2004, 08:05 PM

> LioNiNoiL_a t_Ne t s c a pE_D 0 T_Ne T nobody@devnull.spamcop.net

wrote in part:

>If a cyclist continues to get himself in
>>>> near miss situations with law breaking motorists on
>>>> the same road, there's something wrong with the cyclist.
>>>
>>> See what I mean?
>>
>> I think some people blame cyclists for getting in trouble,
>> but these posts have not.
>
>The post quoted above blames the cyclist for _getting himself_ in
>near-miss situations with law-breaking motorists. How do you parse that
>into _not_ blaming the cyclist??

You ignored the important part of the particular post you quote as evidence of
a "blame the cyclist" mentality. The part you ignored describes a cyclist that
*continues* to have near misses *on the same road* [my emphasis added]. That's
quite specific to one cyclist in one situation as opposed to all cyclists or
even cyclists in general. As such it's hardly any indication of the bias you
allege.
If a man burns his hand on a hot stove once it's a learning experience. Maybe
we can blame the burn on poor stove design. OTOH, if that man repeatedly burns
his hand on the same stove we have to consider that maybe the real problem is
that the man doesn't know how to operate the stove.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-07-2004, 08:05 PM	#519 (permalink)
Hunrobe Posts: n/a	Re: Hit and Run > LioNiNoiL_a t_Ne t s c a pE_D 0 T_Ne T nobody@devnull.spamcop.net wrote in part: >If a cyclist continues to get himself in >>>> near miss situations with law breaking motorists on >>>> the same road, there's something wrong with the cyclist. >>> >>> See what I mean? >> >> I think some people blame cyclists for getting in trouble, >> but these posts have not. > >The post quoted above blames the cyclist for _getting himself_ in >near-miss situations with law-breaking motorists. How do you parse that >into _not_ blaming the cyclist?? You ignored the important part of the particular post you quote as evidence of a "blame the cyclist" mentality. The part you ignored describes a cyclist that continues to have near misses on the same road [my emphasis added]. That's quite specific to one cyclist in one situation as opposed to all cyclists or even cyclists in general. As such it's hardly any indication of the bias you allege. If a man burns his hand on a hot stove once it's a learning experience. Maybe we can blame the burn on poor stove design. OTOH, if that man repeatedly burns his hand on the same stove we have to consider that maybe the real problem is that the man doesn't know how to operate the stove. Regards, Bob Hunt