Road bike with discs and fender mounts? - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

02-02-2007, 01:56 AM

Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
What are my choices? I've seen the Trek Portland, but that's more than I
want to spend on a bike which will essentially be a beater. There are
cyclocross bikes that fit the bill, but people have told me cyclocross bikes
ride differently than road bikes because of the high bottom bracket. So, are
there any bikes with traditional road bike geometry which have discs and
fender mounts? I don't really care about frame material. Aluminum would
seem to be the best choice for a rain bike, but I like steel, too. Of
course, Ti would be the hot ticket but I know that would get pricy.

Mike

02-02-2007, 02:37 AM

In article <45c318ef$0$16712$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
> What are my choices?

Split the difference, and obtain thee an older,
rigid-forked MTB with old fashioned cantilever
brakes for a "rain bike". And those old fashioned
centre-pull cantilevers are a lot easier to fit
fenders around, than V-brakes.

Kool Stop salmons (or something like them) are
available for those ancient relics, too.
Even non-threaded-post pads.

But I still like the gummy cheap-o $2 black rubber pads.
They wear fast, but there's a point where they're
oh so lovely when first worn-in.

After that point, they suck. Then ya spend another $2.

cheers,
Tom

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02-02-2007, 02:48 AM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:lp7vpe.pbd.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <45c318ef$0$16712$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
>> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with
>> discs.
>> What are my choices?
>
> Split the difference, and obtain thee an older,
> rigid-forked MTB with old fashioned cantilever
> brakes for a "rain bike". And those old fashioned
> centre-pull cantilevers are a lot easier to fit
> fenders around, than V-brakes.
>
> Kool Stop salmons (or something like them) are
> available for those ancient relics, too.
> Even non-threaded-post pads.
>
> But I still like the gummy cheap-o $2 black rubber pads.
> They wear fast, but there's a point where they're
> oh so lovely when first worn-in.
>
> After that point, they suck. Then ya spend another $2.
>
>

Thanks, Tom. I would rather go with a 700c wheeled bike, so I would be
looking at touring or cyclocross bikes. My commute is pretty long and I
don't want to do it with a flat bar, and I don't want to muck around with
trying to get an MTB to fit me properly with a drop bar. The reason I like
the Kool Stops is because of their performance, but especially because of
their lack of mess. I had to spend 20 minutes cleaning black grit off my
rins and tires when I rode the stock pads in the rain. No thanks on that.
:-)

02-02-2007, 04:43 AM

On Feb 2, 4:48 am, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> "Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>
> news:lp7vpe.pbd.ln@bud.garden.local...
>
>
>
> > In article <45c318ef$0$16712$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> > "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> >> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with
> >> discs.
> >> What are my choices?
>
> > Split the difference, and obtain thee an older,
> > rigid-forked MTB with old fashioned cantilever
> > brakes for a "rain bike". And those old fashioned
> > centre-pull cantilevers are a lot easier to fit
> > fenders around, than V-brakes.
>
> > Kool Stop salmons (or something like them) are
> > available for those ancient relics, too.
> > Even non-threaded-post pads.
>
> > But I still like the gummy cheap-o $2 black rubber pads.
> > They wear fast, but there's a point where they're
> > oh so lovely when first worn-in.
>
> > After that point, they suck. Then ya spend another $2.
>
> Thanks, Tom. I would rather go with a 700c wheeled bike, so I would be
> looking at touring or cyclocross bikes. My commute is pretty long and I
> don't want to do it with a flat bar, and I don't want to muck around with
> trying to get an MTB to fit me properly with a drop bar. The reason I like
> the Kool Stops is because of their performance, but especially because of
> their lack of mess. I had to spend 20 minutes cleaning black grit off my
> rins and tires when I rode the stock pads in the rain. No thanks on that.
> :-)

I think Surley has a model that is 700c and discs...

02-02-2007, 05:05 AM

On Feb 2, 5:56 am, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
> What are my choices? I've seen the Trek Portland, but that's more than I
> want to spend on a bike which will essentially be a beater. There are
> cyclocross bikes that fit the bill, but people have told me cyclocross bikes
> ride differently than road bikes because of the high bottom bracket. So, are
> there any bikes with traditional road bike geometry which have discs and
> fender mounts? I don't really care about frame material. Aluminum would
> seem to be the best choice for a rain bike, but I like steel, too. Of
> course, Ti would be the hot ticket but I know that would get pricy.
>
> Mike

Kona Sutra [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

02-02-2007, 05:56 AM

On Feb 2, 11:56 am, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
> What are my choices? I've seen the Trek Portland, but that's more than I
> want to spend on a bike which will essentially be a beater. There are
> cyclocross bikes that fit the bill, but people have told me cyclocross bikes
> ride differently than road bikes because of the high bottom bracket. So, are
> there any bikes with traditional road bike geometry which have discs and
> fender mounts? I don't really care about frame material. Aluminum would
> seem to be the best choice for a rain bike, but I like steel, too. Of
> course, Ti would be the hot ticket but I know that would get pricy.
>
> Mike

I was just at the LBS and they had a cool Giant they were marketing as
a winter road bike. Ultegra 9 speed, Avid disks, fenders, studded
tires, the works. I suspect it is touring geometry ,not cyclo-cross. I
can't find it on the Giant web page :-(

Joseph

02-02-2007, 07:20 AM

On Feb 2, 9:56 am, "[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> On Feb 2, 11:56 am, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> > salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
> > What are my choices? I've seen the Trek Portland, but that's more than I
> > want to spend on a bike which will essentially be a beater. There are
> > cyclocross bikes that fit the bill, but people have told me cyclocross bikes
> > ride differently than road bikes because of the high bottom bracket. So, are
> > there any bikes with traditional road bike geometry which have discs and
> > fender mounts? I don't really care about frame material. Aluminum would
> > seem to be the best choice for a rain bike, but I like steel, too. Of
> > course, Ti would be the hot ticket but I know that would get pricy.
>
> > Mike
>
> I was just at the LBS and they had a cool Giant they were marketing as
> a winter road bike. Ultegra 9 speed, Avid disks, fenders, studded
> tires, the works. I suspect it is touring geometry ,not cyclo-cross. I
> can't find it on the Giant web page :-(
>
> Joseph

Probably a NOS Giant OCR Touring

02-02-2007, 02:54 PM

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:56:57 -0500, Gooserider wrote:

> Even though I'm happy with the performance of my Ultegra calipers with
> salmon Kool Stops, I've been thinking about buying a rain bike with discs.
> What are my choices? I've seen the Trek Portland, but that's more than I
> want to spend on a bike which will essentially be a beater. There are
> cyclocross bikes that fit the bill, but people have told me cyclocross bikes
> ride differently than road bikes because of the high bottom bracket. So, are
> there any bikes with traditional road bike geometry which have discs and
> fender mounts? I don't really care about frame material. Aluminum would
> seem to be the best choice for a rain bike, but I like steel, too. Of
> course, Ti would be the hot ticket but I know that would get pricey.

I think looking at a cross bike would be worthwhile. I think the change
in feel due to a higher bottom bracket is overstated. You still may be
spending a bunch to get one with disks, though.

Other than that, either a rigid mountain bike (great commuter bike), or
maybe some of the current crop of hybrid or city bike would work. Some of
those are actually a bargain, and some, ISTR, have disks.

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