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02-03-2007, 10:17 AM

"donquijote1954" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Can Humanity Survive? Want to Bet on It?
>Sixty ago years, a group of physicists concerned about nuclear weapons
>created the Doomsday Clock and set its hands at seven minutes to
>midnight. Now, the clock's keepers, alarmed by new dangers like
>climate change, have moved the hands up to 11:55 p.m.

So one minute = 30 years on the "doomsday clock". That means by your
logic we only have 150 years to go before extinction. Since
implementing all the Kyoto protocol is only gonna make a small
fraction of a degree difference in the temperature (if that) in the
next century and half anyway, I guess the best thing to do is just
give up and wait patiently for the end to come.

Guess that means you're not planning on reproducing and exposing your
offspring to the inescapable terrors of the next 150 years, right?
Just as well - chicks don't dig guys who are scared by Chicken Little
anyway.

Mark "assuming the anonymous person is male" Hickey
Habanero Cycles
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Home of the $795 ti frame

02-03-2007, 11:20 AM

Mark Hickey wrote, in part:

> The fact that the
> alarmists have to use selective and incomplete data to support their
> claims tells you all you really need to know.

Surely, you're not implying that one side of this argument has a
monopoly on this behavior, right?

I mean: unless there's something _factually_ wrong about the issue
raised by the subject line of this thread, .....

Plus, the ironies--vis-a-vis the little Iraq ... uh ... thing--are
deliciously bittersweet.

I dunno whether/how much we're contributing to global warming. I do
know that there are a host of other good reasons to reduce our reliance
on fossil fuels that should carry the argument without need for alarmist
rhetoric from either side (see Iraq reference above).

02-03-2007, 11:45 AM

On Feb 3, 1:52 pm, "Rod Speed" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
> donquijote1954 <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> desperately attempted to bull**** its way out of its
> predicament and fooled absolutely no one, as always.

You eat a lot of "Freedom Fries" I gather. You may also try this...

1: Proudly display your flag. 2: If you don't own a flag, buy ten. 3:
If you do own a flag but haven't displayed it for some time for fear
of incurring the wrath of your hippie neighbor, have it dry-cleaned
and pressed at a non-Chinese shop. 4: Count the flag's stars, and
imagine how much more symmetrical it'd be without Massachusetts'. 5:
While justifiably admiring your flag, if it touches the ground burn it
immediately, and replace it with a bigger one. 6: Replace that
Canadian flag patch sewn onto your backpack with a superior American
one, then go sight-seeing in Paris. 7: Paint your bedroom ceiling with
an image of Old Glory, so that your dreams may be filled with more
virtuous thoughts. 8: Stock your linen closet with Ralph Lauren "flag
towels"...the better to wrap yourself in! 9: Salute every flag you pass,
and if feasible, kiss it (closed mouth, you devil!) 10: Impress your
guests with stars-and-stripes coasters, but only use if your serving
domestic beer or wine. 11: Have you heard that "Uncle Sam" hats are
this year's black? 12: Sing "the Star-Spangled Banner" in the shower.
13: Make it your cell phone's ring tone. 14: And your door bell chime!
15: Consider naming you born-on-the-fourth-of-July newborn "Francis
Scott Key," because no one would ever mess with a kid named Francis.
16: Or George Walker! 17: Or, even better, Rex!
18: Make Spurious George your home page. 19: If Blogger's down, make
TBR your home page (but only on Saturdays!) 20: Stop getting your
"news" from the net (except, of course, from Spurious George.) 21:
Ignore the mainstream media. 22: Burn Dan Rather in effigy. 23: Build
a backyard shrine to Ann Coulter. 24: And a smaller one for Sean
Hannity. 25: Maybe say a small payer for Armstrong Williams. 26: Start
watching Fox News. 27: Be more fair and balanced...like Fox News! 28:
Stop paying attention. 29: Obey. 30: Stop making Viagra jokes about
Rush. 31: Purchase an "AM Only" radio. 32: Throw away your Dixie
Chicks CDs. 33: Better yet, burn them. Even better, throw your burning
CDs at the Dixie Chicks. 34: Especially that uppity bitch Natalie
Maines. 35: Put "The Best of Lee Greenwood" on an endless loop. 36: At
least until "The Best of Rex Kramer" goes on sale. 37: Check for it
daily at you local Christian book store. 38: Or Wal-Mart. 39: Happily
hand over that $24.99.

more and check the chicks on the supersized SUV...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...Den%26 sa%3DG

02-03-2007, 11:50 AM

donquijote1954 wrote:

> A typical 25 watt fluorescent light
> bulb, which replaces a 100 watt incandescent bulb, will last 8 hours
> on 200 watts worth of power. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are even
> more efficient and will last days on 200 watts worth of power."

No, LEDs are *not* more efficient.

Nor will most humans be able to generate a continuous 200W. That's 1/4 horse power FFS !

If that's their sales spiel then I don't think much of them.

Graham

02-03-2007, 11:55 AM

On Feb 3, 2:17 pm, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> "donquijote1954" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >Can Humanity Survive? Want to Bet on It?
> >Sixty ago years, a group of physicists concerned about nuclear weapons
> >created the Doomsday Clock and set its hands at seven minutes to
> >midnight. Now, the clock's keepers, alarmed by new dangers like
> >climate change, have moved the hands up to 11:55 p.m.
>
> So one minute = 30 years on the "doomsday clock". That means by your
> logic we only have 150 years to go before extinction. Since
> implementing all the Kyoto protocol is only gonna make a small
> fraction of a degree difference in the temperature (if that) in the
> next century and half anyway, I guess the best thing to do is just
> give up and wait patiently for the end to come.

"over the next three to four decades climate change could cause
irremediable harm"

It's 30 to 40 years, so you or your children will feel it. Then they
would spit on your tomb --and possibly pee on it.

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Adjusts Clock From 7 to 5 Minutes
Before Midnight; " Deteriorating" Global Situation Cited on Nuclear
Weapons and New Factor: Climate Change.

WASHINGTON, D.C. and LONDON, ENGLAND /// January 17, 2007 /// The
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (BAS) is moving the minute hand of
the Doomsday Clock two minutes closer to midnight. It is now 5 minutes
to midnight. Reflecting global failures to solve the problems posed by
nuclear weapons and the climate crisis, the decision by the BAS Board
of Directors was made in consultation with the Bulletin's Board of
Sponsors, which includes 18 Nobel Laureates.

....

The BAS statement continues: "The dangers posed by climate change are
nearly as dire as those posed by nuclear weapons. The effects may be
less dramatic in the short term than the destruction that could be
wrought by nuclear explosions, but over the next three to four decades
climate change could cause irremediable harm to the habitats upon
which human societies depend for survival."

Stephen Hawking, a BAS sponsor, professor of mathematics at the
University of Cambridge, and a fellow of The Royal Society, said: "As
scientists, we understand the dangers of nuclear weapons and their
devastating effects, and we are learning how human activities and
technologies are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever
change life on Earth. As citizens of the world, we have a duty to
alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day,
and to the perils we foresee if governments and societies do not take
action now to render nuclear weapons obsolete and to prevent further
climate change."

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02-03-2007, 11:58 AM

Wayne Pein wrote:
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>
>> Wayne Pein wrote:
>>
>>> Further, bus public transit is heavy and destroys the pavement,
>>> something that is very important to bicyclists. And when the bus pulls
>>> over to the curb, there is conflict with bicyclists.
>>>
>>> Frankly, public transportation and bicycling have nothing in common.
>>> Bicycling has much more in common with automobile travel.
>>>
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>>> html/table_04_20.html
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>>
>>
>> No way. Buses with racks go a long way for bicyclists who just use the
>> bikes for shorter distances. They are complementary...
>
> So, the 2 bicyclists that use the bus are still chauffered energy
> users/polluters for their bus leg.
>
> Wayne
>
No way. The buses are going to run either way, full or empty. The use of
a bus makes perfect sense when you consider that you can take one past
the most dangerous part of town and drop you at a safer location. Nobody
should be so into the bike that they willfully put their life in the
hands of motorist who could care less.
It's called 'Survival instinct'.
It's also nice to fall back when the weather opens up and wants to dump
on anyone caught in the open.
Bill Baka

02-03-2007, 12:20 PM

donquijote1954 wrote:
> On Feb 2, 5:12 pm, Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I don't drink or use drugs, except for chocolate.
>
> Chocolate is a fancy drug used by liberals given to European socialist
> ideas of biking and small cars. Real Americans eat something like
> Freedom Fries --and drive SUVs.
>
Hah,
They don't go into the bag very well for a long trip, and forget about a
'Big Mac'. I can travel a long way on chocolate power.
Give me chocolate and I will do almost anything (reasonable).
Bill Baka

02-03-2007, 12:25 PM

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
donquijote1954 <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
desperately attempted to bull**** its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one, as always.

02-03-2007, 12:29 PM

Eeyore wrote:
>
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>
>> A typical 25 watt fluorescent light
>> bulb, which replaces a 100 watt incandescent bulb, will last 8 hours
>> on 200 watts worth of power. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are even
>> more efficient and will last days on 200 watts worth of power."
>
> No, LEDs are *not* more efficient.
>
> Nor will most humans be able to generate a continuous 200W. That's 1/4 horse power FFS !
>
> If that's their sales spiel then I don't think much of them.
>
> Graham
>
LEDs are better than incandescent lights, maybe on par with
fluorescents, and don't need a minimum voltage to run the electronic
ballasts. I think 100 watts would be the output for an average person
and even that might be pushing it for a person in a developing country
who may not have enough good nutrition. At 100 watts, solar panels start
to be a major investment and don't work too good at night or on hazy
overcast days.
How did we wind up here?
Cross posting.
Bye.
Bill Baka

02-03-2007, 12:33 PM

On Feb 3, 4:20 pm, Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> donquijote1954 wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 5:12 pm, Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> BTW, I don't drink or use drugs, except for chocolate.
>
> > Chocolate is a fancy drug used by liberals given to European socialist
> > ideas of biking and small cars. Real Americans eat something like
> > Freedom Fries --and drive SUVs.
>
> Hah,
> They don't go into the bag very well for a long trip, and forget about a
> 'Big Mac'. I can travel a long way on chocolate power.
> Give me chocolate and I will do almost anything (reasonable).
> Bill Baka

Well, I see you are leaning left. Try this brand...

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Double check is NOT made in China, like the patriotic ribbons "We
support our troops."

Anyways why is it that Christians buy so many SUVs? I always
wondered...

Why do people liken SUVs and Christianity together?

Many Christians drive SUVs for many reasons. In fact, this is done
symbolically since SUVs and Christianity both do the same things.

TRUE FACTS THAT ARE TRUE SINCE WE USED THE WORD TRUE WHICH MAKES THEM
TRUE SINCE THEY ARE FACTS WHICH MEANS THEY ARE TRUE

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~Emits air which makes trees and plants grow more plentifully. This
ensures healthy people and a higher chance of being smart enough to
become a Christian.

~Emits the Word of God which unites all people in the world and makes
the world peaceful. There is no war or murders. This is why America is
the #1 Christian nation on Earth with the lowest divorce rates, crime
rates, suicides, wars, nuclear weapons, guns, gangs, drugs,
prostitution and so forth. The more Christian a nation gets, the less
of these things you see (ignore what the Liberal Media tells you)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~Is huge and powerful. Anything that gets in its way will be destroyed
without remorse or regret and those inside will stay unaware of what
has happened but laugh and be happy as they go on.

~See above.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~Can drive up mountains, over forests, knock down trees, hold two
flags on each side and one flag in the back and one on the antenna and
two in the rear windows with another on the children's side window and
one on the dash board with three glued onto the room with five stapled
to the fold out chairs, and can drive on water, and can go fast, and
is so tall it can see over everything. It also shows how big your
genitals are.

~Runs over Evil such as witches, Catholics, ***s, atheists, pagans,
Muslims, pacifists, ******s, and communists MAKING THEM DEAD!!!
HAHAHAHA!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~Is fuel efficient.

~Is knowledge efficient.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~Takes you up mountains on stormy nights.

~Takes you up to Heaven.

Why do people liken SUVs and Christianity together?

Many Christians drive SUVs for many reasons. In fact, this is done
symbolically since SUVs and Christianity both do the same things.

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