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Old 02-04-2007, 05:44 PM   #171 (permalink)
Fred G. Mackey
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Rod Speed wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>
>>>>>And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>
>>>>Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates
>>>>less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible?
>>>
>>>Interstates aint freeways.

>>
>>They are in the USA.

>
>
> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>
>


What is the distinction you are trying to make?

For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that
it passes through. What makes it an exception?

Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave
town? At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being
an interstate?
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:44 PM   #172 (permalink)
Fred G. Mackey
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Rod Speed wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>
>>>>>And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>
>>>>Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates
>>>>less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible?
>>>
>>>Interstates aint freeways.

>>
>>They are in the USA.

>
>
> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>
>


What is the distinction you are trying to make?

For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that
it passes through. What makes it an exception?

Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave
town? At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being
an interstate?
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:58 PM   #173 (permalink)
Rod Speed
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Fred G. Mackey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on
>>>>> Interstates less than sensible, even though the accident rate is
>>>>> neglible?
>>>>
>>>> Interstates aint freeways.
>>>
>>> They are in the USA.

>>
>>
>> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>
>>

>
> What is the distinction you are trying to make?


That all freeways ban bikes and that not all interstates are freeways even in the USA.

> For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
> freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that it passes through. What
> makes it an exception?


I JUST said that interstates aint freeways, not that no interstate is a freeway.

> Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave town?


Nope.

> At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being an interstate?


Irrelevant to what was being discussed, where bikes are banned.


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Old 02-04-2007, 06:58 PM   #174 (permalink)
Rod Speed
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Fred G. Mackey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on
>>>>> Interstates less than sensible, even though the accident rate is
>>>>> neglible?
>>>>
>>>> Interstates aint freeways.
>>>
>>> They are in the USA.

>>
>>
>> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>
>>

>
> What is the distinction you are trying to make?


That all freeways ban bikes and that not all interstates are freeways even in the USA.

> For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
> freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that it passes through. What
> makes it an exception?


I JUST said that interstates aint freeways, not that no interstate is a freeway.

> Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave town?


Nope.

> At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being an interstate?


Irrelevant to what was being discussed, where bikes are banned.


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Old 02-04-2007, 07:06 PM   #175 (permalink)
Fred G. Mackey
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Rod Speed wrote:
> Fred G. Mackey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on
>>>>>>Interstates less than sensible, even though the accident rate is
>>>>>>neglible?
>>>>>
>>>>>Interstates aint freeways.
>>>>
>>>>They are in the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>What is the distinction you are trying to make?

>
>
> That all freeways ban bikes and that not all interstates are freeways even in the USA.
>


Are you thick?

What is the distinction between an interstate and a freeway?

>
>>For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
>>freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that it passes through. What
>>makes it an exception?

>
>
> I JUST said that interstates aint freeways, not that no interstate is a freeway.


And I'm asking you to explain why you think an interstate is NOT a freeway.

What is different about I-10 that makes it a freeway?

>
>
>>Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave town?

>
>
> Nope.
>
>
>>At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being an interstate?

>
>
> Irrelevant to what was being discussed, where bikes are banned.
>
>


The discussion has turned to trying to understand why you claim that
interstates are not freeways.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:06 PM   #176 (permalink)
Fred G. Mackey
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Rod Speed wrote:
> Fred G. Mackey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on
>>>>>>Interstates less than sensible, even though the accident rate is
>>>>>>neglible?
>>>>>
>>>>>Interstates aint freeways.
>>>>
>>>>They are in the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>What is the distinction you are trying to make?

>
>
> That all freeways ban bikes and that not all interstates are freeways even in the USA.
>


Are you thick?

What is the distinction between an interstate and a freeway?

>
>>For example, I-10 is certainly an interstate and it is certainly a
>>freeway as well - it's even known as the Katy Freeway in one town that it passes through. What
>>makes it an exception?

>
>
> I JUST said that interstates aint freeways, not that no interstate is a freeway.


And I'm asking you to explain why you think an interstate is NOT a freeway.

What is different about I-10 that makes it a freeway?

>
>
>>Or are you going to claim that it stops being a freeway when you leave town?

>
>
> Nope.
>
>
>>At what point does it transition from being a freeway into being an interstate?

>
>
> Irrelevant to what was being discussed, where bikes are banned.
>
>


The discussion has turned to trying to understand why you claim that
interstates are not freeways.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:25 PM   #177 (permalink)
William Souden
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Steve Spence wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>> Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates
>>>>> less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible?
>>>> Interstates aint freeways.
>>> They are in the USA.

>>
>> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>

>
> I-90 is a interstate, and it ain't free.
>
>

Sections of 90 are toll roads but most of it free.
Saying is is not free is like saying I-80 is not free because there is
a toll on the Bay Bridge.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:25 PM   #178 (permalink)
William Souden
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

Steve Spence wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>>>>> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
>>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>>>>>> And they are banned on any sensibly organised freeway etc.
>>>>> Which makes the half of the U.S. that allows bicycles on Interstates
>>>>> less than sensible, even though the accident rate is neglible?
>>>> Interstates aint freeways.
>>> They are in the USA.

>>
>> Nope, it aint as black and white as that, even in the USA.
>>

>
> I-90 is a interstate, and it ain't free.
>
>

Sections of 90 are toll roads but most of it free.
Saying is is not free is like saying I-80 is not free because there is
a toll on the Bay Bridge.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:27 PM   #179 (permalink)
William Souden
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

So tell us, Rod, what are your definitions of interstates and
freeways? I will even give you some leeway so you tel us you meant to
say not all interstates are freeways.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:27 PM   #180 (permalink)
William Souden
 
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Re: Buses with racks go a long way

So tell us, Rod, what are your definitions of interstates and
freeways? I will even give you some leeway so you tel us you meant to
say not all interstates are freeways.
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