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02-07-2007, 10:26 AM

> oil long enough to catch bin laden what makes you think

We will never admit it if we "catch bin laden" nor will we admit if we kill
him. He will be killed and the cave he's killed in will be blown up. If we
catch him he has a nice public trial, we are the US remember, to preach his
msg and will be a magnet for even more nut cases.

If we kill him and hold up his body for the world to see he becomes martyr
and hero for his cause.

His msg will be fewer and fewer and longer between each then he will just
disappear. After we have sucked all the intel from tracking him. Ever
wonder how we know just which house or car to blow up to kill his
subordinates? Ever wonder how someone who is such a smart person he can not
be found even with a multimillion dollar reward on his head can't get out a
cassette tapes with a speeches on a regular basis to rally his troops? I do
and I wonder if he's dead now and we are the ones producing the tapes we are
hearing. After all its the FBI saying how each tape is really him.

02-07-2007, 10:26 AM

> Blow up the churches and mosques when services are packing them in first.
> Never gonna happen though.
> Bill Baka

And let me guess you support harsher penalties for those convicted of 'hate
crimes', right?

02-07-2007, 10:26 AM

>> I think having them ride a bike, the vehicle Jesus would have ridden,
> ...
> By all reports, Jesus walked, went boating and (on special occasions)
> sat on a young ass.

IOW, he used the transportation of the day.

02-07-2007, 11:26 AM

no spam <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> oil long enough to catch bin laden what makes you think

> We will never admit it if we "catch bin laden" nor will we admit if we kill him.

Have fun explaining what happened to Saddam.

> He will be killed and the cave he's killed in will be blown up.

Have fun explaining what happened to Saddam.

> If we catch him he has a nice public trial, we are the US remember,

Have fun explaining what has happened to so many of his associates,
many of them have just been killed and their bodies displayed.

> to preach his msg and will be a magnet for even more nut cases.

Have fun explaining what happened to Saddam.

> If we kill him and hold up his body for the world to see he becomes martyr and hero for his cause.

Have fun explaining what happened to Saddam.

> His msg will be fewer and fewer and longer between each then he will
> just disappear. After we have sucked all the intel from tracking him.

We'll see...

> Ever wonder how we know just which house or car to blow up to kill his subordinates?

It aint that way.

> Ever wonder how someone who is such a smart person he can not be found even with a multimillion
> dollar reward on his head can't get out a cassette tapes with a speeches on a regular basis to
> rally his troops?

Makes a lot more sense to just keep everyone guessing.

Rabid fanatics like that dont need cassette tapes with speeches.

He didnt bother with speeches even before 9/11

> I do and I wonder if he's dead now and we are the ones producing the tapes we are hearing.

Mindlessly silly conspiracy theory.

> After all its the FBI saying how each tape is really him.

No it isnt.

02-07-2007, 11:26 AM

no spam <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>> I think having them ride a bike, the vehicle Jesus would have
>>> ridden,
>> ...
>> By all reports, Jesus walked, went boating and (on special occasions)
>> sat on a young ass.

>
> IOW, he used the transportation of the day.

Pity that bikes arent that.

02-07-2007, 11:28 AM

Bill Sornson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Oh I see.

> {WHOOSH!}

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

> Rod Speed wrote
>> Bill Sornson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>>> no spam wrote

>>>> Top posting to save time.

>>> It doesn't -- because without scrolling down, one has no idea whom or what you're addressing.

>> Wrong when you're reading a thread with a number of new posts in it, which is how most read.

02-07-2007, 11:42 AM

no spam wrote:
>>>> My parents were Catholic when I was born and gave it up because of the
>>>> weekly donation issue. It seemed to them that the church was out for the
>>>> money and people were trying to buy their way into Heaven.
>>> Had to drop in here. Your up bringing is the problem. The Catholic
>>> church, in most non-catholic's opinions, DOES NOT follow the true
>>> teachings of Christ and therefore are not a true Christian church.

You're just describing the centuries-old rift between Catholics and
Protestants (some of whom, primarily Lutherans, still accept the primacy
of the Pope). If I were Catholic I'm sure we could get into a heated
debate about it.

>> The Pope is just the figurehead of the church and does not make many
>> decisions. It is the Cardinals that tell the Pope what to say.

Nonsense. It is Catholic dogma to excommunicate anybody who challenges
the Pope's primacy. The *nature* of his primacy can be debated, but his
primacy is seen to have been passed down by Christ himself and cannot be
questioned. Certainly there are politics in the church -- how's that for
understatement? -- but John Paul II, for example, made a significant
number of Cardinals (including his eventual successor) unhappy by his
actions on a fairly regular basis.

As I said, I'm not Catholic myself, but I've spent enough time with
practicing Catholics to have learned a thing or two....

> IIRC, the church still says he and his rulings are perfect and must be
> followed.

No. Catholics believe the Pope is infallible, but not impeccable. These
words have a very specific meaning in this context, and they do NOT mean
the Pope cannot make a mistake. Infallibility signifies the ability to
declare, without error, a teaching that is the direct result of divine
intervention, while impeccability signifies that one is free of sin.
Therefore, it would be more correct to say that the Pope is God's
messenger on Earth (or something along those lines). He is not
infallible in everything he says and he is not without sin, therefore he
is not perfect.

Therefore, the only teachings of the Pope regarded as anything
resembling "perfect" are those that fall under the category of
infallible speech. This is a very rare event -- as I recall, there are
only about a half-dozen occasions in the entire history of the Catholic
church that a Pope has spoken infallibly, the last time being 1950.
Thus, any good Catholic would tell you that NOTHING the last several
Popes said was "perfect".

> Heck most of the Catholics I know don't even follow their own
> rules.

Most of the "religious" people I know, regardless of faith, don't follow
their own rules.

That said, there's actually a process by which Catholics can formally
question some of the tenets of the church without being excommunicated.
I forget what it's called, what can be questioned, and the details about
how it works, but it's an involved enough process that I'm guessing the
people you're talking about are merely lapsed to some degree and not
"officially" questioning the church.... :-)

02-07-2007, 11:54 AM

>>>It's interesting how motorists incriminate themselves by claiming that
>>>slow traffic, and specifically bicycle traffic, causes the danger. As a
>>>motorist, I don't have a problem with slow traffic such as bicycles,
>>>front loaders, stopped busses, cars and delivery vehicles. I think
>>>incompetent motorists should just not drive.
>>
>>
>> Traffic going much below the posted speed are a VERY DANGEROUS thing. I
>> have been there as the fast guy and as the slow guy. Say you are driving
>> along doing the 55 mph and round a curve only to find an object (car,
>> truck, bike, cow, whatever) going 5 mph. Given that you are now closing
>> at 50 mph or about 73 feet per second even it that object is a couple of
>> hundred feet in front of you it is still next to a 'panic stop' to slow
>> down enough not to hit it.
>
> Roads are designed with a stopping sight distance such that lawful drivers
> are able to come to a complete stop prior to striking a stationary object.
> A vehicle moving in the same direction provides a margin for error, and
> the following driver need only slow to that speed (rather than stop) to
> avoid collision.

Maybe in the wonderful land where you drive roads are built this way but not
in the places I have lived. I could take you to the county I used to live
in and show you 5 curves (two in state highways, three on paved county
roads) within 10 minutes of my house where there is NO way you could avoid
hitting a stationary object if you were doing half the posted limit. Add to
that the fact that even on the straight runs there are places where there
are dips that could hide a stalled tractor trailer.

One infamous place, on a state highway, is called redtop. It has an
intersection about 100 yards from the top of a hill. If there is a car
waiting to turn left and two or three cars are behind him stopped and you
top that hill doing the posted 55 mph you have about 50 yards to stop.

02-07-2007, 11:56 AM

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:26:45 GMT, "no spam" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>And yet the price of food hasn't gone up the much. . .hum. Could it be the
>fact that today the crop yeild per acre has risen? When I was a kid you go
>one ear of corn for each corn seed you planted. Today you get two or three.
>That in means in effect that you can sell 2/3 of your farm to the developers
>and still make the same amout of corn.

You got one ear of corn for every corn seed you planted? Speaking as a
person that grew up as a kid in Kansas and was there long enough to
follow the Ag Bureau reports on the radio, no one ever reported corn
per corn seed. Ever.

Farmers separated the two - seeds planted per acre and germination
speed and density (usually in very general terms as farmers) and the
yield per acre at the end - which was more related to what happened
between planting and taking the crop.

In any event, you must be in your 70s to have seen a three fold
increase - and this is an increase that is not generally expected to
continue into the future. The period of 1930 to 2000 saw the massive
multiprong change of seed types that addressed resistance to the most
common diseases and pests, as well as greater alignment with the
environment where they were grown, followed with massive amounts of
fertilizer and crop treatments and the change from small and medium
sized farmers to megafarms that run combines where there used to be
fences. There isn't that type of low-hanging fruit left. Hell, they've
worked their way most of the way up that tree - now the changes in
those areas that produce the world's excess will be harder to create.
Indeed, some of the treatments may be pulled back, especially in areas
that see relatively small benefit in increased production.

So if you are selling 2/3 of your farm, you may grow as much corn as
your great grandfather or grandfather, but you sure as hell won't be
selling anywhere as much corn as last year for the rest of your
lifetime.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

02-07-2007, 12:05 PM

It does when the msg is aimed to the sender who knows what he wrote.
>> Top posting to save time.
>
> It doesn't -- because without scrolling down, one has no idea whom or what
> you're addressing.
>
> HTH (but doubt it), BS
>
> {rest snipped since coherency lost}
>