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02-09-2007, 12:24 PM

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:04:06 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Now that north american society has little use for the totally unskilled
>who dont want to work,

How many can there be, with a 4.5 percent
unemployment rate, and 3.0 percent means everybody
holds a job for 3 years and takes 4 or 5 weeks to
find another job.

Joe Fischer

02-09-2007, 12:28 PM

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:55:47 -0800, The Real Bev
<bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>My grandkids live in an affluent (not rich, but containing mostly those
>monster tract homes that are going for $3/4 million now) district.

Know any more jokes, the average home in the
US is worth about $60,000, so maybe $750,000 homes
should be called rich.

Joe Fischer

02-09-2007, 12:39 PM

The Real Bev <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
> Bill Baka wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

>>>> Bad choices is electing politicians who don't have a clue, or those
>>>> who should have retired long ago. I didn't invent welfare but those
>>>> that are on it have obviously learned how to milk the system.
>>> That will happen with any welfare system with some of them.

>>>> Now that we have a glut of school aged children

>>> No you dont.

>>>> everybody is complaining about not enough schools,

>>> No they arent.

> They've been complaining about crowded schools since I was a child.

They have indeed.

> We managed to learn to read even in what I discovered later was a lower-middle-class school with
> 35 students in each class.

Yep, and plenty of the catholic systemic schools managed
to do that with even higher numbers per class too.

> Between then and now, something has gone wrong with either teaching or teachers

Nope, the real problem is the parents.

You still see the kids of asian immigrants learning to read fine today.

Essentially because their parents make sure they do.

And it aint just reading either, its their school results in general too.

> and it has nothing to do with the number of kids/class.

Indeed.

There can be a problem with a class full of the absolute dregs
of society who have no interest in learning anything and who are
only interested in stopping anyone else from learning anything tho.

>>>> yet nobody is addressing the main issue.

>>> Wrong again.

>> You must not live anywhere near California.
>> My grandkids have to attend schools that are not only substandard but where guns have been found
>> on students.

> My grandkids live in an affluent (not rich, but containing mostly
> those monster tract homes that are going for $3/4 million now)
> district. They have "lockdown" drills. That's what's supposed to
> happen when a weapon or other threat is discovered. The kids drop
> flat on the floor and the staff turns out the lights. I need to find out more...

02-09-2007, 12:45 PM

Joe Fischer <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
> Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

>> schools...........
>> I would say that is a problem with the county officials either completely
>> blowing it, or getting their pockets lines to ignore the obvious. Bill Baka

> Probably not, where there is an influx of residents,
> all public services are short of money.

Specially with the terminally stupid US system where schools funding
is local. That inevitably means that the areas with the most need due
to lots of the dregs of society also have the lowest tax revenue too.

In virtually all other modern first world countrys,
the funding for schools is state or country based.

And the results the catholic systemic schools get
shows that it aint really about money anyway.

> And in some towns, like mine, the school may close
> because there are not enough students to make the
> payroll, for 150 grade school students, laws require a
> school superintendent with an advances degree, a principle,
> and accredited teachers to qualify for federal funds.

> With high fuel costs, look for more people moving south,
> or closer to work and schools and shopping centers, or
> if oil stays above $60 a collapse of the world economy.

That last aint gunna happen.

> Garages and large commercial buildings where there is not a
> lot of business are not heated with modern heaters any more.

> Sitting in an upholstered chair with a propane radiant heater to warm
> the front feels pretty good when it is 20 or 30 degrees below normal.

> Just some normal weather would be nice.

You should pipe in the hot air from usenet.

02-09-2007, 12:49 PM

On Feb 7, 2:26 pm, "no spam" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> > You said best. There's one hope though: THE REVOLUTION (coming
> > soon)...
>
> > WORLD REVOLUTION
> > "The World Revolution is an idea for a new, global activist social
> > movement for progressive social change. It aims to resolve in a
>
> <stuff cut>
>
> If it does come you will find out what every other 'winner' of a 'peoples
> revolution' has found. Power flows from the barrel of a gun and those with
> the power (i.e. guns) will suddenly not be so friendly. I don't think most
> of the supporters Castro thought he was going to take away all the guns they
> used to win their freedom and use them to keep himself in power.

True. That's why the next revolution must do without the Castros and
Chavezes (the caudillos), and, of course, must do away with the guns,
just use a banana. Like in Banana Revolution... [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
users/bananarevolution

This is a thought from it...

"We don't need lions or violent monkeys that become lions"

02-09-2007, 12:55 PM

Joe Fischer <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

>> Now that north american society has little use
>> for the totally unskilled who dont want to work,

> How many can there be, with a 4.5 percent unemployment
> rate, and 3.0 percent means everybody holds a job for 3
> years and takes 4 or 5 weeks to find another job.

Not with those who can put their hands out for welfare instead.

We're actually stupid enough to pay very generous
welfare to single women, essentially on a per brat basis.

Its hardly surprising the plenty of those prefer to pump out
more kids, usually with each one with a different 'father' than
do unskilled work like operate a supermarket checkout or cleaning.

They actually get a HIGHER income on welfare and get to
veg out in front of the TV all day, while the state herds their
brats in the schools for much of the day, and presumably
actually enjoy the ****ing that produces the brats as well.

We're currently stupid enough to give them a $5K
cash handout for each brat they produce too.

Completely and utterly barking mad.

02-09-2007, 01:01 PM

Curtis L. Russell <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>> dgk <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

> I managed to break an ankle in 1997 while at a big getaway
> with about 50 people (I landed very awkwardly from my mountain
> bike). Only one person out of those 50 could drive my car home.

> My next car was automatic.

>> Its silly buying a car on the basis of such a rare event.

> Perhaps,

No perhaps about it.

> but bad knees aren't rare.

Yes, buying an automatic because your knee isnt up to it makes a lot of sense.

Nothing like his original tho.

> Working a clutch is a problem for many people,
> even those that know how to use a stick.

Bugger all actually.

> FWIW, some people said the same thing when they started to use
> synchros. (And crash boxes can be done with a bad left knee.)

> Today it takes a really good driver to outperform a good four or five
> speed, and anyone sipping coffee between shifts isn't that person.
> It takes a pretty good driver when you have paddle shifters.

Irrelevant to what was being discussed.

02-09-2007, 01:02 PM

"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:55:47 -0800, The Real Bev
> <bashley101+[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Bill Baka wrote:
>
>>
>>My grandkids live in an affluent (not rich, but containing mostly those
>>monster tract homes that are going for $3/4 million now) district. They
>>have "lockdown" drills. That's what's supposed to happen when a weapon
>>or other threat is discovered. The kids drop flat on the floor and the
>>staff turns out the lights. I need to find out more...
>
> Unfortunately that would appear to be a smart thing to plan for
> considering the number of actual incidents. Back when we were kids we
> had those idiot abomb drills. Climb under the desk and put your head
> between your legs. And, as the precocious kids added, kiss your ass
> goodbye.

Do you not think that making weapons far harder to get hold of might help a
bit ?

02-09-2007, 01:04 PM

dgk <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

>>> I managed to break an ankle in 1997 while at a big getaway
>>> with about 50 people (I landed very awkwardly from my
>>> mountain bike). Only one person out of those 50 could
>>> drive my car home. My next car was automatic.

>> Its silly buying a car on the basis of such a rare event.

> Yes, true, but the example holds anyway.

Like hell it does.

> I've been known to lend my car to family and friends.
> I really can't do that with a manual.

Yes, if you lend your car out it makes sense to have an automatic.

Nothing like your original silly stuff.

> On the other hand, if we did outlaw automatics (and what
> true conservative would allow such a governmental intrusion
> on the free market), everyone would be able to drive it.

Pathetic, really.

> When I was a kid I worked as a delivery boy for a drug store (talk
> about kids in a candy shop) and drove an old VB bug. You needed
> the clutch to get into first, but from there on it was optional.

Irrelevant to what is being discussed.

02-09-2007, 01:05 PM

Bill Baka <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> dgk wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2007 08:33:46 -0800, "donquijote1954"
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 12:36 am, "Fred G. Mackey" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>>> The automotive engineers know this but they are paid to shut up
>>>>> and design cars that sell. Joe Consumer does not want to have to
>>>>> downshift to pass someone. That gives the somewhat slow Joe a
>>>>> sense of power under the hood, which in turn sells cars.
>>>> I'm no expert on cars, engines, or transmissions, but I do miss my
>>>> old car with the 5-speed manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> I saw nothing wrong with downshifting to get a little more
>>>> acceleration - make that a LOT more. The car I drive now is similar in many
>>>> respects - better in quite a few, but the fact that it's automatic offers
>>>> me few advantages beyond being able to drink coffee while in stop
>>>> and go traffic. That wasn't a problem when I had a manual transmission - I learned
>>>> to drink my coffee between shifts.
>>> Ban automatic cars (except for the handicap) and the stupid and
>>> dangerous will go the way of the dinosaur. Whoever is not fit to
>>> drive stick, should ride a bike --or ride the bus. One-speed bikes
>>> should be all right though.
>>
>> I've always preferred manual but they really are impractical in the
>> big city. Plus, I managed to break an ankle in 1997 while at a big
>> getaway with about 50 people (I landed very awkwardly from my
>> mountain bike). Only one person out of those 50 could drive my car
>> home. My next car was automatic.
>
> Impractical is a stick in San Francisco. They put stop signs at the
> top of a hill and unless you have a hand operated emergency brake you
> can roll back and get the car behind you. That's the one place where
> I don't want to have a stick.

Your gross incompetance is your problem, as always.