Re: Broke A Chain!

02-06-2007, 04:00 AM

>It's a SRAM PC48 chain of perhaps four years vintage.
>One half of the master link was still in the chain but
>the other half had only half of itself still in the chain.
>It had broken!

Similar happened to me once. A bad shift with the front derailler and the
link popped off. I usually try to carry a chain tool, but that time I had
to phone for a ride.

I'd prefer to avoid chains with (unique critical) master links. When I
install an SRAM, I'll splce it out.

Reminds me of Oliver Wendell Holmes' "The Deacon's Masterpiece" or "The
Wonderful One-Hoss Shay"
--
mac the naïf

02-06-2007, 04:59 AM

Alex Colvin wrote:

> I'd prefer to avoid chains with (unique critical) master links. When I
> install an SRAM, I'll splce it out.

You mean remove the masterlink altogether and use a
pin instead?

I hate those danged pins! Sooo many more ways to go
wrong with it than with a masterlink IMHO.

SMH

02-06-2007, 10:17 AM

On 2007-02-06, Alex Colvin <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> I'd prefer to avoid chains with (unique critical) master links. When I
> install an SRAM, I'll splce it out.

I bought an SRAM replacement chain a couple years ago after running out
of my stockpile of SedisSport chains. I didn't even realize it had a
master link until I'd already pinned it together in the traditional
manner. It's still sitting in my tool box someplace.

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02-06-2007, 10:18 AM

On 2007-02-06, Stephen Harding <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> You mean remove the masterlink altogether and use a
> pin instead?

Yup.

> I hate those danged pins! Sooo many more ways to go
> wrong with it than with a masterlink IMHO.

How so? I haven't had one fail in 30 years.

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John ([Only registered and activated users can see links. ].org)

02-06-2007, 12:42 PM

John Thompson wrote:
> On 2007-02-06, Stephen Harding <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> You mean remove the masterlink altogether and use a
>> pin instead?
>
> Yup.
>
>> I hate those danged pins! Sooo many more ways to go
>> wrong with it than with a masterlink IMHO.
>
> How so? I haven't had one fail in 30 years.
>
The pins on Shimano chains discourage proper chain cleaning, since you
have to replace it with a new one each time. The standard bins on most
new chains do not work properly once you've pushed it out with a chain
tool. The only chain I've had fail on me was the last one I used
without a master link, 10 years ago or so. I have never had a problem
with the "superlinks" supplied with SRAM chains. They break apart
easily for cleaning, and so far, never failed me.

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David L. Johnson

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02-06-2007, 01:03 PM

David L. Johnson wrote:
> John Thompson wrote:
>
>> On 2007-02-06, Stephen Harding <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>> I hate those danged pins! Sooo many more ways to go
>>> wrong with it than with a masterlink IMHO.
>>
>> How so? I haven't had one fail in 30 years.
>>
> The pins on Shimano chains discourage proper chain cleaning, since you
> have to replace it with a new one each time. The standard bins on most
> new chains do not work properly once you've pushed it out with a chain
> tool. The only chain I've had fail on me was the last one I used
> without a master link, 10 years ago or so. I have never had a problem
> with the "superlinks" supplied with SRAM chains. They break apart
> easily for cleaning, and so far, never failed me.

My belief too. It's very convenient being able to take
the chain off so easily (although I obvious don't do it
as often as I should!).

I also have found getting the pins back in and properly
positioned can sometimes be a tricky. They need to be
well centered and it's easy pushing the pin back in too
far or not far enough.

No doubt just me since I have a prejudice against them.

SMH