Re: drivers speeding away

02-08-2007, 04:39 AM

You've made some silly posts before, but...

nash wrote:
> about the parking lot traffic.
>
> Did you see the Global Dimming Documentary on Knowledge Network or anywhere.
> Global Dimming is keeping us from being flooded by sea water. It reflects
> sunlight and is caused by air pollution. Tested on a 3 day no flights in
> N.America ban after 911. The difference was one C. just from not having
> contrails from air planes. LA was the example. So banning air pollution is
> the opposite of what we should be thinking about because Global Warming
> would then be unleashed full force.

LOL!!! Do you really believe that? The only reason we rely on
particulate matter* to contribute to our albedo is that we've lost so
much due to the receding ice caps.

From a human health standpoint, PM is the worst kind of air pollution.
Saying that we need it...oh forget it.

02-08-2007, 09:12 AM

Saying that we need it...oh forget it.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

You are insane. Look at the show. I did not say that. Global warming
would be alot worse without it. Both are a problem. Knowledge is not a
problem. It is a fact.

go elsewhere with your kindergarten comments please

02-08-2007, 09:25 AM

"Paul Hobson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> You've made some silly posts before, but...
>
> nash wrote:
>> about the parking lot traffic.
>>
>> Did you see the Global Dimming Documentary on Knowledge Network or
>> anywhere.
>> Global Dimming is keeping us from being flooded by sea water. It
>> reflects sunlight and is caused by air pollution. Tested on a 3 day no
>> flights in N.America ban after 911. The difference was one C. just from
>> not having contrails from air planes. LA was the example. So banning
>> air pollution is the opposite of what we should be thinking about because
>> Global Warming would then be unleashed full force.
>
> LOL!!! Do you really believe that? The only reason we rely on particulate
> matter* to contribute to our albedo is that we've lost so much due to the
> receding ice caps.
>
> From a human health standpoint, PM is the worst kind of air pollution.
> Saying that we need it...oh forget it.

I try to make people laugh. What I do not understand is all the arguments
going on here. You may have misunderstood. I do not think it is silly.
And as usual people always comment on what they know nothing about.
Troll is what you are trying to cause a fight according to your troll like
stature and negative attitude. I never said Global warming is good. We
have to look at the bigger picture because the doc will explain you do not
know what you are dealing with. Fixing one thing without full knowledge of
what is going on will bring disaster shortly. What is so silly? You are
kill filed. dead in the head. Obviously no one here knows anything about
it. Not one comment.
You take yourself too seriously maybe. spam spam spam I love spam.
Everything I told this group came true this year if you read or watch the
news. Plastic, cancer the whole gammit. Your bullying is over.

SN

02-08-2007, 04:27 PM

nash wrote:
> You take yourself too seriously maybe. spam spam spam I love spam.
> Everything I told this group came true this year if you read or watch the
> news. Plastic, cancer the whole gammit. Your bullying is over.

1) Cry me a river.
2) It's clear you didn't understand my post
3) I'll try to make it simple for you

you wrote:
>>> Did you see the Global Dimming Documentary on Knowledge Network or
>>> anywhere.
>>> Global Dimming is keeping us from being flooded by sea water. It
>>> reflects sunlight and is caused by air pollution.

That reflection is called albedo. This instance of it that you mention
is due to particulate matter, casually called PM by civil/environmental
engineers and scientists, etc. The work of a former professor of mine
(Dr. Mike Bergin at GA Tech) analyzes it's true impact on global
climate. Its anthropogenic source is the combustion of fossil fuels.
Diesel and coal are particularly bad. Volcanoes contribute a amount as
well. As ice caps and snow cover have melted with increasing arctic
temperature, the Earth's albedo has decreased dramatically.

>>> Tested on a 3 day no
>>> flights in N.America ban after 911. The difference was one C. just from
>>> not having contrails from air planes. LA was the example.

Ok. So you're saying that a 3-day sample is definitive proof that the
lack of air traffic in L.A. caused a 1 deg. C increase in temperature.
Was it sea surface temperature? Air temperature at sea level? Either
way, I laugh at that conclusion as being anything more than a "partially
educated shot in the dark." Don't agree with me? Fine. But I've
enough graduate environmental data analysis courses under my belt to
feel pretty confident in my assessment with the given info.

>>> So banning
>>> air pollution is the opposite of what we should be thinking about because
>>> Global Warming would then be unleashed full force.

That statement speaks for itself.

02-08-2007, 04:33 PM

nash wrote:
> Saying that we need it...oh forget it.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> You are insane. Look at the show.

Wait. It's on TV so it's true? Tip: stop watching the idiot box.

> I did not say that. Global warming
> would be alot worse without it. Both are a problem. Knowledge is not a
> problem. It is a fact.

You realize that increase in albedo due to particulate matter is offset
by the other effects of global warming, right?

Less combusted fuels
--> cooler air temp
--> more ice caps
--> greater albedo
--> no need for PM

> go elsewhere with your kindergarten comments please

LOL. See my other post below.
\\paul