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09-10-2004, 06:48 AM

Paul Cassel wrote:
:: Bob in CT wrote:
::
::: On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::
:::: Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
::::
:: When people have less time, they
:::: have less time to be physically active and cook."'
::::
::
:: This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat
:: due to choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in
:: the US today spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard.
:: Let's say that's wrong by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day.
:: Instead of that, let them spend the time lifting or riding or even
:: walking slowly and that fat disappears.
::
:: It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.
::

"Pedestrian-unfriendly streets may be part of the problem"

:: -paul

09-10-2004, 06:48 AM

Paul Cassel wrote:
:: Bob in CT wrote:
::
::: On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::
:::: Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
::::
:: When people have less time, they
:::: have less time to be physically active and cook."'
::::
::
:: This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat
:: due to choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in
:: the US today spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard.
:: Let's say that's wrong by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day.
:: Instead of that, let them spend the time lifting or riding or even
:: walking slowly and that fat disappears.
::
:: It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.
::

"Pedestrian-unfriendly streets may be part of the problem"

:: -paul

09-10-2004, 06:48 AM

Paul Cassel wrote:
:: Bob in CT wrote:
::
::: On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::
:::: Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
::::
:: When people have less time, they
:::: have less time to be physically active and cook."'
::::
::
:: This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat
:: due to choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in
:: the US today spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard.
:: Let's say that's wrong by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day.
:: Instead of that, let them spend the time lifting or riding or even
:: walking slowly and that fat disappears.
::
:: It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.
::

"Pedestrian-unfriendly streets may be part of the problem"

:: -paul

09-10-2004, 07:00 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:39:07 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote:

> This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat due to
> choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in the US today
> spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard. Let's say that's wrong
> by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day. Instead of that, let them spend
> the time lifting or riding or even walking slowly and that fat disappears.
>
> It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.

Actually, it does. The average driving commute most suburbanites have now
leaves them precious little energy for anything else. That may have
something to do with why they spend so much time on the couch. Plus the
fact that there is nothing within walking distance of most suburban houses
aside from other, identical, suburban houses. I don't blame the streets
so much as the lack of a destination.

Having recently moved from a very suburban neighborhood to a town setting,
I notice that not only do we walk more, but everyone else does as well.
Kids are out playing in the streets, or in the park, rather than sitting
on their butts in front of the TV. And, rather than fight highway traffic
for an hour to get to work, now the most traffic on my commute route is
kids riding bikes.

I know suburban guys who drive 2+ hours each way to work. There are
people living in Pennsylvania who drive to NYC to work each day. They
don't even have the energy to sit on their riding mower to mow their
oversized suburban lawn on the weekend.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

09-10-2004, 07:00 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:39:07 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote:

> This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat due to
> choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in the US today
> spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard. Let's say that's wrong
> by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day. Instead of that, let them spend
> the time lifting or riding or even walking slowly and that fat disappears.
>
> It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.

Actually, it does. The average driving commute most suburbanites have now
leaves them precious little energy for anything else. That may have
something to do with why they spend so much time on the couch. Plus the
fact that there is nothing within walking distance of most suburban houses
aside from other, identical, suburban houses. I don't blame the streets
so much as the lack of a destination.

Having recently moved from a very suburban neighborhood to a town setting,
I notice that not only do we walk more, but everyone else does as well.
Kids are out playing in the streets, or in the park, rather than sitting
on their butts in front of the TV. And, rather than fight highway traffic
for an hour to get to work, now the most traffic on my commute route is
kids riding bikes.

I know suburban guys who drive 2+ hours each way to work. There are
people living in Pennsylvania who drive to NYC to work each day. They
don't even have the energy to sit on their riding mower to mow their
oversized suburban lawn on the weekend.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

09-10-2004, 07:00 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:39:07 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote:

> This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat due to
> choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in the US today
> spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard. Let's say that's wrong
> by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day. Instead of that, let them spend
> the time lifting or riding or even walking slowly and that fat disappears.
>
> It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.

Actually, it does. The average driving commute most suburbanites have now
leaves them precious little energy for anything else. That may have
something to do with why they spend so much time on the couch. Plus the
fact that there is nothing within walking distance of most suburban houses
aside from other, identical, suburban houses. I don't blame the streets
so much as the lack of a destination.

Having recently moved from a very suburban neighborhood to a town setting,
I notice that not only do we walk more, but everyone else does as well.
Kids are out playing in the streets, or in the park, rather than sitting
on their butts in front of the TV. And, rather than fight highway traffic
for an hour to get to work, now the most traffic on my commute route is
kids riding bikes.

I know suburban guys who drive 2+ hours each way to work. There are
people living in Pennsylvania who drive to NYC to work each day. They
don't even have the energy to sit on their riding mower to mow their
oversized suburban lawn on the weekend.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

09-10-2004, 07:00 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:39:07 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote:

> This is B.S. People aren't fat due to being suburban. They are fat due to
> choices of how the spend their time. The typical person in the US today
> spends 5 hrs watching TV daily - or so I"ve heard. Let's say that's wrong
> by 2x leaving them tubing 2.5 hrs a day. Instead of that, let them spend
> the time lifting or riding or even walking slowly and that fat disappears.
>
> It has NOTHING to do with suburbs.

Actually, it does. The average driving commute most suburbanites have now
leaves them precious little energy for anything else. That may have
something to do with why they spend so much time on the couch. Plus the
fact that there is nothing within walking distance of most suburban houses
aside from other, identical, suburban houses. I don't blame the streets
so much as the lack of a destination.

Having recently moved from a very suburban neighborhood to a town setting,
I notice that not only do we walk more, but everyone else does as well.
Kids are out playing in the streets, or in the park, rather than sitting
on their butts in front of the TV. And, rather than fight highway traffic
for an hour to get to work, now the most traffic on my commute route is
kids riding bikes.

I know suburban guys who drive 2+ hours each way to work. There are
people living in Pennsylvania who drive to NYC to work each day. They
don't even have the energy to sit on their riding mower to mow their
oversized suburban lawn on the weekend.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

09-10-2004, 08:01 AM

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news

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> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <nolookee@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
> >
> > 'Do sprawling communities translate into expanding waistlines?
> > Absolutely, according to a new study that adds to a growing
> > body of evidence that suburban living makes people fat.
[...]
> And they had to do research to find this out?

Yes. Better Galileo be hauled before a Papal court than assuming Aristotle
et. al. were right in there 'obvious' assumptions about the sun revolving
around the earth.

> All they had to do was ask me, and all the millions of other people who
spend time in traffic
> each day.

All the more reason you should welcome my user-pay emissions idea

--
'I remember you put a chill across my face
like the air of December.
I swear I remember it that way.'
-edie brickell

09-10-2004, 08:01 AM

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news

psd34ksy06snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <nolookee@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
> >
> > 'Do sprawling communities translate into expanding waistlines?
> > Absolutely, according to a new study that adds to a growing
> > body of evidence that suburban living makes people fat.
[...]
> And they had to do research to find this out?

Yes. Better Galileo be hauled before a Papal court than assuming Aristotle
et. al. were right in there 'obvious' assumptions about the sun revolving
around the earth.

> All they had to do was ask me, and all the millions of other people who
spend time in traffic
> each day.

All the more reason you should welcome my user-pay emissions idea

--
'I remember you put a chill across my face
like the air of December.
I swear I remember it that way.'
-edie brickell

09-10-2004, 08:01 AM

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news

psd34ksy06snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:11:00 GMT, loki <nolookee@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Globe & Mail, 10/9/4, [auto-supremacy strikes again]
> >
> > 'Do sprawling communities translate into expanding waistlines?
> > Absolutely, according to a new study that adds to a growing
> > body of evidence that suburban living makes people fat.
[...]
> And they had to do research to find this out?

Yes. Better Galileo be hauled before a Papal court than assuming Aristotle
et. al. were right in there 'obvious' assumptions about the sun revolving
around the earth.

> All they had to do was ask me, and all the millions of other people who
spend time in traffic
> each day.

All the more reason you should welcome my user-pay emissions idea

--
'I remember you put a chill across my face
like the air of December.
I swear I remember it that way.'
-edie brickell