Stupid bicyclist killed in North Carolina - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

09-15-2004, 06:15 PM

Riding at night with dark clothing and no helmet

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A 40-year-old New Bern man died late Monday night after the bicycle he was riding was struck by an SUV on U.S. 70 west of New Bern.

According to Sgt. J.K. Rock of the N.C. State Highway Patrol, the collision occurred around 11 p.m. as Warren Jerome Turman was riding his bike along the paved shoulder of the highway's inner westbound lane.

At a spot about 1 3/4 miles west of the New Bern city limits, Turman's bike was struck by a westbound 1998 Ford Expedition driven by 39-year-old Thomas Edward Small of New Bern.

Troopers say Turman was transported to Craven Regional Medical Center in New Bern, but died shortly after the collision.

At the time of incident, Turman was not wearing a helmet and was dressed in dark clothing, Rock said.

Troopers do not suspect that drugs or alcohol played a role in the wreck, and say that witnesses reported that it was difficult to see Turman and his bike.

Small is not expected to face any charges in the collision, Rock said. Trooper Roger Pittman investigated the collision.

09-16-2004, 12:12 AM

Anonymous Sender wrote:

> Riding at night with dark clothing and no helmet

We have a rule here in our highway code: "always drive so you can stop well
within the distance you can see to be clear." What if the cyclist had been
an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
and no helmet?

No mention of lights. Was the cyclist using lights? My RealLite can be
seen form a mile away, provided the driver actually looks. Which is where
the whole thing usually falls down, of course...

Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds? The
story as posted doesn't even say he died of head injuries - and one study
found that a majority of cyclist who were recorded as dying of head
injuries, had other mortal injuries as well. Where the largest vehicles are
concerned, the most common cause of death is crushing injuries to the chest
and abdomen.

The really stupid bicyclist was the teen who rode out into the road and was
hit. That /is/ stupid.

Guy
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09-16-2004, 12:12 AM

Anonymous Sender wrote:

> Riding at night with dark clothing and no helmet

We have a rule here in our highway code: "always drive so you can stop well
within the distance you can see to be clear." What if the cyclist had been
an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
and no helmet?

No mention of lights. Was the cyclist using lights? My RealLite can be
seen form a mile away, provided the driver actually looks. Which is where
the whole thing usually falls down, of course...

Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds? The
story as posted doesn't even say he died of head injuries - and one study
found that a majority of cyclist who were recorded as dying of head
injuries, had other mortal injuries as well. Where the largest vehicles are
concerned, the most common cause of death is crushing injuries to the chest
and abdomen.

The really stupid bicyclist was the teen who rode out into the road and was
hit. That /is/ stupid.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University

09-16-2004, 12:12 AM

Anonymous Sender wrote:

> Riding at night with dark clothing and no helmet

We have a rule here in our highway code: "always drive so you can stop well
within the distance you can see to be clear." What if the cyclist had been
an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
and no helmet?

No mention of lights. Was the cyclist using lights? My RealLite can be
seen form a mile away, provided the driver actually looks. Which is where
the whole thing usually falls down, of course...

Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds? The
story as posted doesn't even say he died of head injuries - and one study
found that a majority of cyclist who were recorded as dying of head
injuries, had other mortal injuries as well. Where the largest vehicles are
concerned, the most common cause of death is crushing injuries to the chest
and abdomen.

The really stupid bicyclist was the teen who rode out into the road and was
hit. That /is/ stupid.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University

09-16-2004, 12:12 AM

Anonymous Sender wrote:

> Riding at night with dark clothing and no helmet

We have a rule here in our highway code: "always drive so you can stop well
within the distance you can see to be clear." What if the cyclist had been
an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
and no helmet?

No mention of lights. Was the cyclist using lights? My RealLite can be
seen form a mile away, provided the driver actually looks. Which is where
the whole thing usually falls down, of course...

Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds? The
story as posted doesn't even say he died of head injuries - and one study
found that a majority of cyclist who were recorded as dying of head
injuries, had other mortal injuries as well. Where the largest vehicles are
concerned, the most common cause of death is crushing injuries to the chest
and abdomen.

The really stupid bicyclist was the teen who rode out into the road and was
hit. That /is/ stupid.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University

09-16-2004, 03:03 AM

>Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds?

Do you think a SUV "kills you deader" than an automobile or pickup?

>What if the cyclist had been
>an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
>and no helmet?

Of course, dumbest question I've heard for awhile.

09-16-2004, 03:03 AM

>Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds?

Do you think a SUV "kills you deader" than an automobile or pickup?

>What if the cyclist had been
>an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
>and no helmet?

Of course, dumbest question I've heard for awhile.

09-16-2004, 03:03 AM

>Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds?

Do you think a SUV "kills you deader" than an automobile or pickup?

>What if the cyclist had been
>an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
>and no helmet?

Of course, dumbest question I've heard for awhile.

09-16-2004, 03:03 AM

>Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds?

Do you think a SUV "kills you deader" than an automobile or pickup?

>What if the cyclist had been
>an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark clothing
>and no helmet?

Of course, dumbest question I've heard for awhile.

09-16-2004, 03:19 AM

Fx199 wrote:

>> Do you think helmets are proof against SUVs moving at highway speeds?
> Do you think a SUV "kills you deader" than an automobile or pickup?

Deader than a passenger car, quite likely. Deader than a pickup, clearly
not. But in this case it was an SUV, hence the comment. Had it been a
semi, I'd have said "proof against semis".

>> What if the cyclist had been
>> an animal? Would it have been the animal's fault for wearing dark
>> clothing and no helmet?
> Of course, dumbest question I've heard for awhile.

I'm assuming you missed the smiley there :-)

Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
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