Re: Aren't bicycles suposed to stop at stop signs? - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

09-08-2003, 07:32 PM

cyclists are supposed to obey all traffic signals just the same as other
road traffic. many inexperenced cyclists don't realize this and run
stop signs.

Steve + Laura wrote:

> I went on a charity group ride the other day, and saw hundreds of
> bicyclists ride through 30 or 40 stop signs. The number of cyclists I
> saw stop for a stop sign: zero.
>
> Aren't you supposed to obey normal traffic rule on a bike? I even saw
> riders blow through a stop sign at an intersection holding up a car
> that had no stop sign. The driver stopped, but was more than a little
> annoyed.
>
> Is this how I'm supposed to ride on the street? Seems a bit unsafe...
>
> Steve.
>

09-09-2003, 09:02 AM

Joel Lowrie top posted:
> cyclists are supposed to obey all traffic signals just the same as other
> road traffic. many inexperenced cyclists don't realize this and run
> stop signs.

Oh, give me a break. Most of these "inexperienced cyclists" have
driver's licenses and know the rules about stopping for red lights and
stop signs. They just choose to ignore them. This is particularly true
on large group rides where a pack mentality often takes over.

Bicycling advocates have fought hard to get bicycles recognized as
vehicles with the same rights and responsibilities as other vehicles.
But unfortunately, many cyclists (even so-called "serious" cyclists)
still see bicycles as toys.

To the OP: Your best bet is to point out your concerns to the event
organizers, and tell them why you won't be participating with them in
the future.

Art Harris

09-09-2003, 01:15 PM

I don't have a problem riding next year, I can stop. I'm just surprised
that out of that very large group (I assume containing more than a few
experienced cyclists) that some of them didn't have at least a little of
the self preservation instinct.

Steve.

Art Harris wrote:
>
> ...
> Oh, give me a break. Most of these "inexperienced cyclists" have
> driver's licenses and know the rules about stopping for red lights and
> stop signs. They just choose to ignore them. This is particularly true
> on large group rides where a pack mentality often takes over.
>
> Bicycling advocates have fought hard to get bicycles recognized as
> vehicles with the same rights and responsibilities as other vehicles.
> But unfortunately, many cyclists (even so-called "serious" cyclists)
> still see bicycles as toys.
>
> To the OP: Your best bet is to point out your concerns to the event
> organizers, and tell them why you won't be participating with them in
> the future.
>
> Art Harris

09-09-2003, 03:08 PM

"Steve + Laura" wrote:
> I don't have a problem riding next year, I can stop. I'm just surprised
> that out of that very large group (I assume containing more than a few
> experienced cyclists) that some of them didn't have at least a little of
> the self preservation instinct.

OK, it's your choice to participate. But be careful when *you* stop that you
don't get rear ended by the rest of the motley crew (who will surprised that
someone is actually stopping)!

Personally, I wouldn't want to be associated with a group like that.

Art Harris

09-09-2003, 11:02 PM

Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:15:20 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Steve + Laura <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I'm just surprised
>that out of that very large group (I assume containing more than a few
>experienced cyclists) that some of them didn't have at least a little of
>the self preservation instinct.

Herd, school or flock behaviours are forms of self-preservation.
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09-09-2003, 11:16 PM

>Herd, school or flock behaviours are forms of self-preservation.

I've heard that the only lemmings that run over cliffs are pushed.

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