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Old 09-24-2004, 07:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On 24 Sep 2004 10:59:07 -0700, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Lobo Tommy) wrote:

>Interested in any comments any one has about Marin's urban bikes or
>any bikes (competition) they may have? The only other bike I've seen
>like these is the Kona Smoke.


Bikes like the Kona Dr. Dew, etc. Specialized Sirrus. Cannondale Bad
Boy, Road Warrior. Jamis Street Series. Seems like many companies have
similar ideas floating around.

I have a Marin Muirwoods. Nice frame, nice ride. If it fits what you
want, no reason not to buy it. At the same time, if I had found a 1990
Stumpjumper frame and fork, I could have built up a similar rig
myself.
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Old 09-24-2004, 07:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On 24 Sep 2004 10:59:07 -0700, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Lobo Tommy) wrote:

>Interested in any comments any one has about Marin's urban bikes or
>any bikes (competition) they may have? The only other bike I've seen
>like these is the Kona Smoke.


Bikes like the Kona Dr. Dew, etc. Specialized Sirrus. Cannondale Bad
Boy, Road Warrior. Jamis Street Series. Seems like many companies have
similar ideas floating around.

I have a Marin Muirwoods. Nice frame, nice ride. If it fits what you
want, no reason not to buy it. At the same time, if I had found a 1990
Stumpjumper frame and fork, I could have built up a similar rig
myself.
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Old 09-24-2004, 07:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On 24 Sep 2004 10:59:07 -0700, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Lobo Tommy) wrote:

>Interested in any comments any one has about Marin's urban bikes or
>any bikes (competition) they may have? The only other bike I've seen
>like these is the Kona Smoke.


Bikes like the Kona Dr. Dew, etc. Specialized Sirrus. Cannondale Bad
Boy, Road Warrior. Jamis Street Series. Seems like many companies have
similar ideas floating around.

I have a Marin Muirwoods. Nice frame, nice ride. If it fits what you
want, no reason not to buy it. At the same time, if I had found a 1990
Stumpjumper frame and fork, I could have built up a similar rig
myself.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
SuperSlinky
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

Dan Daniel said...

> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.


Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
SuperSlinky
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

Dan Daniel said...

> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.


Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
SuperSlinky
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

Dan Daniel said...

> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.


Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
SuperSlinky
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

Dan Daniel said...

> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.


Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:48 PM   #18 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:08:19 GMT, SuperSlinky <nospam@least.com>
wrote:

>Dan Daniel said...
>
>> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
>> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.

>
>Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
>but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
>single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
>roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
>can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
>happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
>not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
>faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
>rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
>routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
>These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
>Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
>suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.


Try 32mm tires on a road bike
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:08:19 GMT, SuperSlinky <nospam@least.com>
wrote:

>Dan Daniel said...
>
>> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
>> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.

>
>Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
>but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
>single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
>roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
>can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
>happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
>not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
>faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
>rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
>routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
>These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
>Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
>suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.


Try 32mm tires on a road bike
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
Dan Daniel
 
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Re: Any comments/competition for Marin's urban bikes? Mtb/<1.75 " tires

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:08:19 GMT, SuperSlinky <nospam@least.com>
wrote:

>Dan Daniel said...
>
>> Except that most MTBs sold these days have front shocks. Others may
>> think front shocks are great on the road, but I find them silly.

>
>Couldn't disagree more. Not only are front shocks useful on pavement,
>but rear ones are as well. Some roads are as rough as rooty and rocky
>single track. Some single track is as smooth as fresh asphalt. On many
>roads, my MTB is faster and safer than my road bike, mainly because it
>can take a hell of a lot more punishment without something very bad
>happening. I'll keep saying it whether anybody chooses to believe me or
>not. MTBs are some of the best road bikes ever made. I average 3-4mph
>faster on my road racing bike compared to my 29lb FS MTB on long road
>rides. Now that I have a real road bike, I'm having difficulty finding
>routes that aren't made up bone rattling and bike trashing crappy roads.
>These same roads I have floated over countless times on the FS MTB.
>Nothing beats FS for urban riding. The question there isn't why have
>suspension, but why on earth wouldn't you want it.


Try 32mm tires on a road bike
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