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Old 10-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #101 (permalink)
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes


"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> 03 Oct 2004 15:29:01 GMT,
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Hunrobe) wrote:
>
> >Not to denigrate Cervalo but it seems you are succumbing to nationalistic
> >jingoism as Lotto-Domo, T-Mobile, and Rabobank all have bikes that are at least
> >as cool looking as CSC. <g>

>
> bah! Their TT machines are probably made by Cervélo anyhow and just
> painted in that inferior livery.
> --


To bad the only decent Cervelos are outsourced to Taiwan fabrication
shops. They are only designed in Toronto, all production is done
overseas.


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Old 10-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:21:36 -0700, <g25qjc.mb.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> but I would
>> rather just let my results do the talking for me.

>
>Y'know, I've gotta respect ya for saying that.
>
>So I'm sinking a Newcastle Brown Ale in your honour.


Yes, I'm still a bit moist of eye.

Go ahead, I'll catch up.
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Old 10-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #103 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:21:36 -0700, <g25qjc.mb.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> but I would
>> rather just let my results do the talking for me.

>
>Y'know, I've gotta respect ya for saying that.
>
>So I'm sinking a Newcastle Brown Ale in your honour.


Yes, I'm still a bit moist of eye.

Go ahead, I'll catch up.
--
zk
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Old 10-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #104 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:21:36 -0700, <g25qjc.mb.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> but I would
>> rather just let my results do the talking for me.

>
>Y'know, I've gotta respect ya for saying that.
>
>So I'm sinking a Newcastle Brown Ale in your honour.


Yes, I'm still a bit moist of eye.

Go ahead, I'll catch up.
--
zk
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Old 10-03-2004, 05:51 PM   #105 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:21:36 -0700, <g25qjc.mb.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> but I would
>> rather just let my results do the talking for me.

>
>Y'know, I've gotta respect ya for saying that.
>
>So I'm sinking a Newcastle Brown Ale in your honour.


Yes, I'm still a bit moist of eye.

Go ahead, I'll catch up.
--
zk
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:38 PM   #106 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:51:17 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> 03 Oct 2004 15:29:01 GMT,
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Hunrobe) wrote:
>>
>> >Not to denigrate Cervalo but it seems you are succumbing to nationalistic
>> >jingoism as Lotto-Domo, T-Mobile, and Rabobank all have bikes that are at least
>> >as cool looking as CSC. <g>

>>
>> bah! Their TT machines are probably made by Cervélo anyhow and just
>> painted in that inferior livery.
>> --

>
>To bad the only decent Cervelos are outsourced to Taiwan fabrication
>shops. They are only designed in Toronto, all production is done
>overseas.


Why is it too bad?

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:38 PM   #107 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:51:17 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> 03 Oct 2004 15:29:01 GMT,
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Hunrobe) wrote:
>>
>> >Not to denigrate Cervalo but it seems you are succumbing to nationalistic
>> >jingoism as Lotto-Domo, T-Mobile, and Rabobank all have bikes that are at least
>> >as cool looking as CSC. <g>

>>
>> bah! Their TT machines are probably made by Cervélo anyhow and just
>> painted in that inferior livery.
>> --

>
>To bad the only decent Cervelos are outsourced to Taiwan fabrication
>shops. They are only designed in Toronto, all production is done
>overseas.


Why is it too bad?

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:38 PM   #108 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:51:17 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> 03 Oct 2004 15:29:01 GMT,
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Hunrobe) wrote:
>>
>> >Not to denigrate Cervalo but it seems you are succumbing to nationalistic
>> >jingoism as Lotto-Domo, T-Mobile, and Rabobank all have bikes that are at least
>> >as cool looking as CSC. <g>

>>
>> bah! Their TT machines are probably made by Cervélo anyhow and just
>> painted in that inferior livery.
>> --

>
>To bad the only decent Cervelos are outsourced to Taiwan fabrication
>shops. They are only designed in Toronto, all production is done
>overseas.


Why is it too bad?

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
---------------------------------------------
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:38 PM   #109 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:51:17 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> 03 Oct 2004 15:29:01 GMT,
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Hunrobe) wrote:
>>
>> >Not to denigrate Cervalo but it seems you are succumbing to nationalistic
>> >jingoism as Lotto-Domo, T-Mobile, and Rabobank all have bikes that are at least
>> >as cool looking as CSC. <g>

>>
>> bah! Their TT machines are probably made by Cervélo anyhow and just
>> painted in that inferior livery.
>> --

>
>To bad the only decent Cervelos are outsourced to Taiwan fabrication
>shops. They are only designed in Toronto, all production is done
>overseas.


Why is it too bad?

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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Old 10-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #110 (permalink)
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes


"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> Why is it too bad?

>
> Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
> Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
> ---------------------------------------------


Well for one, at the Taipei International Cycle Show
Phil White was pretty upset when he saw the outsourcer
using the carbon lug technology that Cervelo developed
being used on that outsourcer's other brands, I think he
found five different brands using them.

And John Harrington from Easton found thier seatpost design
at the supplier's booth with the supplier's name on them.


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