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Old 10-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #111 (permalink)
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes


"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> Why is it too bad?

>
> Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Well for one, at the Taipei International Cycle Show
Phil White was pretty upset when he saw the outsourcer
using the carbon lug technology that Cervelo developed
being used on that outsourcer's other brands, I think he
found five different brands using them.

And John Harrington from Easton found thier seatpost design
at the supplier's booth with the supplier's name on them.


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Old 10-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #112 (permalink)
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes


"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> Why is it too bad?

>
> Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
> Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
> ---------------------------------------------


Well for one, at the Taipei International Cycle Show
Phil White was pretty upset when he saw the outsourcer
using the carbon lug technology that Cervelo developed
being used on that outsourcer's other brands, I think he
found five different brands using them.

And John Harrington from Easton found thier seatpost design
at the supplier's booth with the supplier's name on them.


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Old 10-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #113 (permalink)
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes


"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> Why is it too bad?

>
> Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
> Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
> ---------------------------------------------


Well for one, at the Taipei International Cycle Show
Phil White was pretty upset when he saw the outsourcer
using the carbon lug technology that Cervelo developed
being used on that outsourcer's other brands, I think he
found five different brands using them.

And John Harrington from Easton found thier seatpost design
at the supplier's booth with the supplier's name on them.


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Old 10-04-2004, 07:17 AM   #114 (permalink)
Curtis L. Russell
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:27:36 GMT, maxo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Weren't most club bikes from the 50s and 60s basically three speeds, but
>with drops instead of upright bars?


If you are talking racing clubs, not the ones I was in - mid to late
60s. Definitely ten speeds for most road situations. There was a
fascination for a while for time trial bikes like what showed up in
the British publications, like single speeds with pocket watches taped
to the bars. Alf something was the 25 miler that I think was the
record holder: all black all the way around and easier to copy then
than Lance or Jan today.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:17 AM   #115 (permalink)
Curtis L. Russell
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:27:36 GMT, maxo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Weren't most club bikes from the 50s and 60s basically three speeds, but
>with drops instead of upright bars?


If you are talking racing clubs, not the ones I was in - mid to late
60s. Definitely ten speeds for most road situations. There was a
fascination for a while for time trial bikes like what showed up in
the British publications, like single speeds with pocket watches taped
to the bars. Alf something was the 25 miler that I think was the
record holder: all black all the way around and easier to copy then
than Lance or Jan today.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:17 AM   #116 (permalink)
Curtis L. Russell
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:27:36 GMT, maxo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Weren't most club bikes from the 50s and 60s basically three speeds, but
>with drops instead of upright bars?


If you are talking racing clubs, not the ones I was in - mid to late
60s. Definitely ten speeds for most road situations. There was a
fascination for a while for time trial bikes like what showed up in
the British publications, like single speeds with pocket watches taped
to the bars. Alf something was the 25 miler that I think was the
record holder: all black all the way around and easier to copy then
than Lance or Jan today.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:17 AM   #117 (permalink)
Curtis L. Russell
 
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Re: Beaver Cleaver's Bikes

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:27:36 GMT, maxo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Weren't most club bikes from the 50s and 60s basically three speeds, but
>with drops instead of upright bars?


If you are talking racing clubs, not the ones I was in - mid to late
60s. Definitely ten speeds for most road situations. There was a
fascination for a while for time trial bikes like what showed up in
the British publications, like single speeds with pocket watches taped
to the bars. Alf something was the 25 miler that I think was the
record holder: all black all the way around and easier to copy then
than Lance or Jan today.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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