Bike Safety: "Never ride a bike when it's wet outside!" - Page 10

11-13-2004, 04:19 PM

On 13 Nov 2004 09:23:05 GMT, R15757 <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Frank K wrote:
>
> << In some places, depending on soil type, vegetation density, contours
> of
> the land, annual rainfall, etc. riding wet trails can perhaps be
> detrimental. In other places, it makes absolutely no difference. >>
>
> It depends a great deal on soil type.
> Big problem with mountain bikers on muddy
> trails is they tend to go around the mud
> bogs and turn the singletrack into road width.
> Another point--horses, which are rarely banned
> from any trail, and are in fact allowed to walk
> in loaded trains on trails in designated wilderness
> areas, do far more damage than bikes.
> It's stupid to talk about bikes and trail erosion
> with all these 1200 pound horses all over the
> place.
>
> And one more thing! It's just a trail, dammit.
> The trail is not part of the wilderness. The mere
> fact of the trail's existence has altered the
> wilderness in a very profound way. If you stay
> on the trail, I say rip it.
>
> Every old trail dog knows that the rap on
> bikes is false. The worst trail erosion comes
> from hikers, horses, and motorcycles going
> uphill, not mtn. bikers skidding downhill as is
> commonly thought. The best way to eliminate
> trail erosion is to design trails without steep
> sections.
>
> Robert

Many of those trails were made hundreds if not thousands
of years ago by the animals themselves and people just
found out they were nice to hike of bike.

--
Just Bill again

11-13-2004, 04:19 PM

On 13 Nov 2004 09:23:05 GMT, R15757 <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Frank K wrote:
>
> << In some places, depending on soil type, vegetation density, contours
> of
> the land, annual rainfall, etc. riding wet trails can perhaps be
> detrimental. In other places, it makes absolutely no difference. >>
>
> It depends a great deal on soil type.
> Big problem with mountain bikers on muddy
> trails is they tend to go around the mud
> bogs and turn the singletrack into road width.
> Another point--horses, which are rarely banned
> from any trail, and are in fact allowed to walk
> in loaded trains on trails in designated wilderness
> areas, do far more damage than bikes.
> It's stupid to talk about bikes and trail erosion
> with all these 1200 pound horses all over the
> place.
>
> And one more thing! It's just a trail, dammit.
> The trail is not part of the wilderness. The mere
> fact of the trail's existence has altered the
> wilderness in a very profound way. If you stay
> on the trail, I say rip it.
>
> Every old trail dog knows that the rap on
> bikes is false. The worst trail erosion comes
> from hikers, horses, and motorcycles going
> uphill, not mtn. bikers skidding downhill as is
> commonly thought. The best way to eliminate
> trail erosion is to design trails without steep
> sections.
>
> Robert

Many of those trails were made hundreds if not thousands
of years ago by the animals themselves and people just
found out they were nice to hike of bike.

--
Just Bill again

11-13-2004, 04:19 PM

On 13 Nov 2004 09:23:05 GMT, R15757 <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Frank K wrote:
>
> << In some places, depending on soil type, vegetation density, contours
> of
> the land, annual rainfall, etc. riding wet trails can perhaps be
> detrimental. In other places, it makes absolutely no difference. >>
>
> It depends a great deal on soil type.
> Big problem with mountain bikers on muddy
> trails is they tend to go around the mud
> bogs and turn the singletrack into road width.
> Another point--horses, which are rarely banned
> from any trail, and are in fact allowed to walk
> in loaded trains on trails in designated wilderness
> areas, do far more damage than bikes.
> It's stupid to talk about bikes and trail erosion
> with all these 1200 pound horses all over the
> place.
>
> And one more thing! It's just a trail, dammit.
> The trail is not part of the wilderness. The mere
> fact of the trail's existence has altered the
> wilderness in a very profound way. If you stay
> on the trail, I say rip it.
>
> Every old trail dog knows that the rap on
> bikes is false. The worst trail erosion comes
> from hikers, horses, and motorcycles going
> uphill, not mtn. bikers skidding downhill as is
> commonly thought. The best way to eliminate
> trail erosion is to design trails without steep
> sections.
>
> Robert

Many of those trails were made hundreds if not thousands
of years ago by the animals themselves and people just
found out they were nice to hike of bike.

--
Just Bill again