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Old 11-06-2004, 06:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
Pat
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)


: I've had no problems applying adhesive-backed reflective tape to the
: styrofoam sections of helmets, including the bottom back section. In
: ten years and three helmets, I've seen no signs of the adhesive
: attacking the foam.

I haven't had any problems applying it, either. It's getting it to stay in
place that has been the problem for me. Maybe it's the Texas summertime
heat, but the reflective tape just curls up...

Pat in TX


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Old 11-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #22 (permalink)
Chip C
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Jeff Potter) wrote in message news:<46b1eeb4.0411061024.75d1a73@posting.google.c om>...
> Anyone know of a good helmet at a good price for visibility safety?
>
> I'm thinking that an optimally visible helmet would be a bright color
> with the coloring extended under the rear 'tail' of the helmet so that
> drivers can still easily see it from the rear when a rider is going
> hard with their head tipped down a bit.
>
> Any brand/model ideas? Links?
>
> --JP


I've been thinking about this, and my own personal opinion, being
someone with no professional expertise in this whatsoever, is that a
solid bright colour, like white or yellow, is your best bet. My
thinking is that you not only need a colour bright enough to draw the
eye, but you need to present a shape that the viewer recognizes as a
person on a bike, and can quickly get an accurate bearing and range
on. That's where the solid colour comes in.

I'm convinced that isolated bright lights, little stripes of reflecto,
complex patterns of loud colour, etc, may nominally be visible from a
great distance, but it can form part of the visual noise of a
streetscape without imprinting "hey, there's a cyclist".

I do agree with the other poster who suggested that your jacket or
jersey will make more difference than your helmet.

Chip C
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Old 11-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
Chip C
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Jeff Potter) wrote in message news:<46b1eeb4.0411061024.75d1a73@posting.google.c om>...
> Anyone know of a good helmet at a good price for visibility safety?
>
> I'm thinking that an optimally visible helmet would be a bright color
> with the coloring extended under the rear 'tail' of the helmet so that
> drivers can still easily see it from the rear when a rider is going
> hard with their head tipped down a bit.
>
> Any brand/model ideas? Links?
>
> --JP


I've been thinking about this, and my own personal opinion, being
someone with no professional expertise in this whatsoever, is that a
solid bright colour, like white or yellow, is your best bet. My
thinking is that you not only need a colour bright enough to draw the
eye, but you need to present a shape that the viewer recognizes as a
person on a bike, and can quickly get an accurate bearing and range
on. That's where the solid colour comes in.

I'm convinced that isolated bright lights, little stripes of reflecto,
complex patterns of loud colour, etc, may nominally be visible from a
great distance, but it can form part of the visual noise of a
streetscape without imprinting "hey, there's a cyclist".

I do agree with the other poster who suggested that your jacket or
jersey will make more difference than your helmet.

Chip C
Toronto
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Old 11-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
Chip C
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Jeff Potter) wrote in message news:<46b1eeb4.0411061024.75d1a73@posting.google.c om>...
> Anyone know of a good helmet at a good price for visibility safety?
>
> I'm thinking that an optimally visible helmet would be a bright color
> with the coloring extended under the rear 'tail' of the helmet so that
> drivers can still easily see it from the rear when a rider is going
> hard with their head tipped down a bit.
>
> Any brand/model ideas? Links?
>
> --JP


I've been thinking about this, and my own personal opinion, being
someone with no professional expertise in this whatsoever, is that a
solid bright colour, like white or yellow, is your best bet. My
thinking is that you not only need a colour bright enough to draw the
eye, but you need to present a shape that the viewer recognizes as a
person on a bike, and can quickly get an accurate bearing and range
on. That's where the solid colour comes in.

I'm convinced that isolated bright lights, little stripes of reflecto,
complex patterns of loud colour, etc, may nominally be visible from a
great distance, but it can form part of the visual noise of a
streetscape without imprinting "hey, there's a cyclist".

I do agree with the other poster who suggested that your jacket or
jersey will make more difference than your helmet.

Chip C
Toronto
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Old 11-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
Chip C
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Jeff Potter) wrote in message news:<46b1eeb4.0411061024.75d1a73@posting.google.c om>...
> Anyone know of a good helmet at a good price for visibility safety?
>
> I'm thinking that an optimally visible helmet would be a bright color
> with the coloring extended under the rear 'tail' of the helmet so that
> drivers can still easily see it from the rear when a rider is going
> hard with their head tipped down a bit.
>
> Any brand/model ideas? Links?
>
> --JP


I've been thinking about this, and my own personal opinion, being
someone with no professional expertise in this whatsoever, is that a
solid bright colour, like white or yellow, is your best bet. My
thinking is that you not only need a colour bright enough to draw the
eye, but you need to present a shape that the viewer recognizes as a
person on a bike, and can quickly get an accurate bearing and range
on. That's where the solid colour comes in.

I'm convinced that isolated bright lights, little stripes of reflecto,
complex patterns of loud colour, etc, may nominally be visible from a
great distance, but it can form part of the visual noise of a
streetscape without imprinting "hey, there's a cyclist".

I do agree with the other poster who suggested that your jacket or
jersey will make more difference than your helmet.

Chip C
Toronto
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:30 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:46:30 -0600, "Pat" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>I haven't had any problems applying it, either. It's getting it to stay in
>place that has been the problem for me.


The solution is to buy non-adhesive reflective and glue it on with
cyanoacrylate.

Guy
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:30 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:46:30 -0600, "Pat" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>I haven't had any problems applying it, either. It's getting it to stay in
>place that has been the problem for me.


The solution is to buy non-adhesive reflective and glue it on with
cyanoacrylate.

Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:30 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:46:30 -0600, "Pat" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>I haven't had any problems applying it, either. It's getting it to stay in
>place that has been the problem for me.


The solution is to buy non-adhesive reflective and glue it on with
cyanoacrylate.

Guy
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May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:30 AM   #29 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:46:30 -0600, "Pat" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>I haven't had any problems applying it, either. It's getting it to stay in
>place that has been the problem for me.


The solution is to buy non-adhesive reflective and glue it on with
cyanoacrylate.

Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:31 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Best helmet for visibility? (color on underside of rear)

On 7 Nov 2004 08:51:48 -0800, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Chip C) wrote in
message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> :

>I've been thinking about this, and my own personal opinion, being
>someone with no professional expertise in this whatsoever, is that a
>solid bright colour, like white or yellow, is your best bet. My
>thinking is that you not only need a colour bright enough to draw the
>eye, but you need to present a shape that the viewer recognizes as a
>person on a bike, and can quickly get an accurate bearing and range
>on. That's where the solid colour comes in.


How about red and white quartered, or painted up like a crash test
dummy? Seriously.

Guy
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