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Old 11-16-2004, 12:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
Peter Clinch
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

Arthur Clune wrote:

> Sadly, I guess that this is a clue towards sorting Behemoth. That bike
> is too bike. This isn't a fixable problem.


Why be sad about it? The new bike suits the rider better even for jobs
where the roadster is nominally better (why anyone would prefer battery
lights to a dynohub on an urban utility bike and how anyone can find a
Nexus 7 more complex than a DualDrive are both beyond me, but if that's
how Elisa feels then that's how she feels) so get some money and space
back and sell it on.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:10 AM   #32 (permalink)
Peter Clinch
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

Arthur Clune wrote:

> Sadly, I guess that this is a clue towards sorting Behemoth. That bike
> is too bike. This isn't a fixable problem.


Why be sad about it? The new bike suits the rider better even for jobs
where the roadster is nominally better (why anyone would prefer battery
lights to a dynohub on an urban utility bike and how anyone can find a
Nexus 7 more complex than a DualDrive are both beyond me, but if that's
how Elisa feels then that's how she feels) so get some money and space
back and sell it on.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
Peter Clinch
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

Arthur Clune wrote:

> Sadly, I guess that this is a clue towards sorting Behemoth. That bike
> is too bike. This isn't a fixable problem.


Why be sad about it? The new bike suits the rider better even for jobs
where the roadster is nominally better (why anyone would prefer battery
lights to a dynohub on an urban utility bike and how anyone can find a
Nexus 7 more complex than a DualDrive are both beyond me, but if that's
how Elisa feels then that's how she feels) so get some money and space
back and sell it on.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:50 AM   #34 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:49:40 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
>> Flyzipper has 20" wheels, weighs 12 kg, and is equipped with a fabulous
>> 21-speed SRAM DualDrive shifter - three speeds in the front hub and
>> seven on the rear derailleur.

>
>No, the 3 speed hub is at the back and the derailleur mounts onto it.
>
>> so. What is great about this system is that it cuts down on needless
>> complexity. Behemoth has a Nexus 7 shifter, meaning that split-second
>> decisions have to be made between all 7 gears. With Flyzipper, there are
>> only 3, but each of those can be modulated through a whole spectrum of
>> shades when there is leisure.

>
>But the Dualdrive is more complex, so you seem to be misunderstanding
>something somewhere... With the Nexus 7 if you want to change up,
>change up, if you want to change down, change down. There's no "split
>second decisions" you have to make at all, so I think basically it's all
>a problem in your head. The point of a DD is more finely graduated
>gears and a greater overall range than a hub, but it really is more
>complex because you've got two independent shifting mechanisms. If it
>works for you then that's Good, but for future reference don't get hung
>up on hubs on their own being more complex to use, because they're not!
>


Hi, I meant to post earlier and then deleted the OP's original
message. I think she could benefit from reading Sheldon's write up on
gear shifting. It talks of maintaining a reasonably even cadence.
Something that Elisa may not be doing. So, for the OP, here is the
link:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

And here is the the link, that includes that article, as well as many
others. It is titled "Articles For New Cyclists", but I believe there
is info that is helpful to more than just "new" cyclists.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Life is Good!
Jeff



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Old 11-16-2004, 05:50 AM   #35 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:49:40 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
>> Flyzipper has 20" wheels, weighs 12 kg, and is equipped with a fabulous
>> 21-speed SRAM DualDrive shifter - three speeds in the front hub and
>> seven on the rear derailleur.

>
>No, the 3 speed hub is at the back and the derailleur mounts onto it.
>
>> so. What is great about this system is that it cuts down on needless
>> complexity. Behemoth has a Nexus 7 shifter, meaning that split-second
>> decisions have to be made between all 7 gears. With Flyzipper, there are
>> only 3, but each of those can be modulated through a whole spectrum of
>> shades when there is leisure.

>
>But the Dualdrive is more complex, so you seem to be misunderstanding
>something somewhere... With the Nexus 7 if you want to change up,
>change up, if you want to change down, change down. There's no "split
>second decisions" you have to make at all, so I think basically it's all
>a problem in your head. The point of a DD is more finely graduated
>gears and a greater overall range than a hub, but it really is more
>complex because you've got two independent shifting mechanisms. If it
>works for you then that's Good, but for future reference don't get hung
>up on hubs on their own being more complex to use, because they're not!
>


Hi, I meant to post earlier and then deleted the OP's original
message. I think she could benefit from reading Sheldon's write up on
gear shifting. It talks of maintaining a reasonably even cadence.
Something that Elisa may not be doing. So, for the OP, here is the
link:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

And here is the the link, that includes that article, as well as many
others. It is titled "Articles For New Cyclists", but I believe there
is info that is helpful to more than just "new" cyclists.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Life is Good!
Jeff



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Old 11-16-2004, 05:50 AM   #36 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:49:40 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
>> Flyzipper has 20" wheels, weighs 12 kg, and is equipped with a fabulous
>> 21-speed SRAM DualDrive shifter - three speeds in the front hub and
>> seven on the rear derailleur.

>
>No, the 3 speed hub is at the back and the derailleur mounts onto it.
>
>> so. What is great about this system is that it cuts down on needless
>> complexity. Behemoth has a Nexus 7 shifter, meaning that split-second
>> decisions have to be made between all 7 gears. With Flyzipper, there are
>> only 3, but each of those can be modulated through a whole spectrum of
>> shades when there is leisure.

>
>But the Dualdrive is more complex, so you seem to be misunderstanding
>something somewhere... With the Nexus 7 if you want to change up,
>change up, if you want to change down, change down. There's no "split
>second decisions" you have to make at all, so I think basically it's all
>a problem in your head. The point of a DD is more finely graduated
>gears and a greater overall range than a hub, but it really is more
>complex because you've got two independent shifting mechanisms. If it
>works for you then that's Good, but for future reference don't get hung
>up on hubs on their own being more complex to use, because they're not!
>


Hi, I meant to post earlier and then deleted the OP's original
message. I think she could benefit from reading Sheldon's write up on
gear shifting. It talks of maintaining a reasonably even cadence.
Something that Elisa may not be doing. So, for the OP, here is the
link:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

And here is the the link, that includes that article, as well as many
others. It is titled "Articles For New Cyclists", but I believe there
is info that is helpful to more than just "new" cyclists.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Life is Good!
Jeff



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Old 11-16-2004, 05:50 AM   #37 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:49:40 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
>> Flyzipper has 20" wheels, weighs 12 kg, and is equipped with a fabulous
>> 21-speed SRAM DualDrive shifter - three speeds in the front hub and
>> seven on the rear derailleur.

>
>No, the 3 speed hub is at the back and the derailleur mounts onto it.
>
>> so. What is great about this system is that it cuts down on needless
>> complexity. Behemoth has a Nexus 7 shifter, meaning that split-second
>> decisions have to be made between all 7 gears. With Flyzipper, there are
>> only 3, but each of those can be modulated through a whole spectrum of
>> shades when there is leisure.

>
>But the Dualdrive is more complex, so you seem to be misunderstanding
>something somewhere... With the Nexus 7 if you want to change up,
>change up, if you want to change down, change down. There's no "split
>second decisions" you have to make at all, so I think basically it's all
>a problem in your head. The point of a DD is more finely graduated
>gears and a greater overall range than a hub, but it really is more
>complex because you've got two independent shifting mechanisms. If it
>works for you then that's Good, but for future reference don't get hung
>up on hubs on their own being more complex to use, because they're not!
>


Hi, I meant to post earlier and then deleted the OP's original
message. I think she could benefit from reading Sheldon's write up on
gear shifting. It talks of maintaining a reasonably even cadence.
Something that Elisa may not be doing. So, for the OP, here is the
link:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

And here is the the link, that includes that article, as well as many
others. It is titled "Articles For New Cyclists", but I believe there
is info that is helpful to more than just "new" cyclists.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Life is Good!
Jeff



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Old 11-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #38 (permalink)
Elisa Francesca Roselli
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike



Call me Bob wrote:

> Nice write up, thanks. Can you tell us how long it takes you to fold
> and unfold the bike?


It doesn't take long. I'm not sure of the time, since I wasn't clocking
myself and was more concerned to do it right than to do it fast.
Basically you fold down the front bar, shunt in the seat and fold it in
half in the middle. A few seconds, I suppose.

EFR
Ile de France

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Old 11-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #39 (permalink)
Elisa Francesca Roselli
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike



Call me Bob wrote:

> Nice write up, thanks. Can you tell us how long it takes you to fold
> and unfold the bike?


It doesn't take long. I'm not sure of the time, since I wasn't clocking
myself and was more concerned to do it right than to do it fast.
Basically you fold down the front bar, shunt in the seat and fold it in
half in the middle. A few seconds, I suppose.

EFR
Ile de France

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Old 11-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #40 (permalink)
Elisa Francesca Roselli
 
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Re: Dahon Impulse P21 is a Dream Bike



Call me Bob wrote:

> Nice write up, thanks. Can you tell us how long it takes you to fold
> and unfold the bike?


It doesn't take long. I'm not sure of the time, since I wasn't clocking
myself and was more concerned to do it right than to do it fast.
Basically you fold down the front bar, shunt in the seat and fold it in
half in the middle. A few seconds, I suppose.

EFR
Ile de France

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