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Old 12-03-2004, 02:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
Amit
 
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto

"B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>


it's too bad, this guy made a career writing articles about crossover
vs. alpine gearing and plotting logarithmic gearcharts, stuff that
seems so quaint now, but no one cares about.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
B. Lafferty
 
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto


"Amit" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:df5bdaa0.0412031438.642850bf@posting.google.c om...
> "B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
>> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>>

>
> it's too bad, this guy made a career writing articles about crossover
> vs. alpine gearing and plotting logarithmic gearcharts, stuff that
> seems so quaint now, but no one cares about.


He made a career that he enjoyed for years. That's more than can be said
for most people. And his book is really an excellent way to end the career,
even though it isn't a tome on alpine gearing.


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Old 12-03-2004, 03:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto


"Amit" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:df5bdaa0.0412031438.642850bf@posting.google.c om...
> "B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
>> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>>

>
> it's too bad, this guy made a career writing articles about crossover
> vs. alpine gearing and plotting logarithmic gearcharts, stuff that
> seems so quaint now, but no one cares about.


He made a career that he enjoyed for years. That's more than can be said
for most people. And his book is really an excellent way to end the career,
even though it isn't a tome on alpine gearing.


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Old 12-03-2004, 03:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
B. Lafferty
 
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto


"Amit" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:df5bdaa0.0412031438.642850bf@posting.google.c om...
> "B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
>> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>>

>
> it's too bad, this guy made a career writing articles about crossover
> vs. alpine gearing and plotting logarithmic gearcharts, stuff that
> seems so quaint now, but no one cares about.


He made a career that he enjoyed for years. That's more than can be said
for most people. And his book is really an excellent way to end the career,
even though it isn't a tome on alpine gearing.


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Old 12-03-2004, 03:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
B. Lafferty
 
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto


"Amit" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:df5bdaa0.0412031438.642850bf@posting.google.c om...
> "B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
>> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>>

>
> it's too bad, this guy made a career writing articles about crossover
> vs. alpine gearing and plotting logarithmic gearcharts, stuff that
> seems so quaint now, but no one cares about.


He made a career that he enjoyed for years. That's more than can be said
for most people. And his book is really an excellent way to end the career,
even though it isn't a tome on alpine gearing.


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Old 12-03-2004, 06:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:1102093285.153392.115190@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>Just received notice that "The Dancing Chain" by Frank Berto will be
>>shipping around 2/5/2005 to people who have ordered it through
>>Amazon.com
>>For those who have not yet ordered a copy of this fine history of the
>>derailleur, it is available through the following link:
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>The current Amazon pre-order price is $32.97, which is a savings of 34%
>>off the list price of $49.95.


B. Lafferty wrote:
> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.


As with so many things, I bought mine at an independent
bookstore, from the owner herself, and paid cover price.
One small step to keeping real bookstores available to me.

IMHO Frank's book, while pricey, is a good read.
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Old 12-03-2004, 06:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto

> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:1102093285.153392.115190@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>Just received notice that "The Dancing Chain" by Frank Berto will be
>>shipping around 2/5/2005 to people who have ordered it through
>>Amazon.com
>>For those who have not yet ordered a copy of this fine history of the
>>derailleur, it is available through the following link:
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>The current Amazon pre-order price is $32.97, which is a savings of 34%
>>off the list price of $49.95.


B. Lafferty wrote:
> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.


As with so many things, I bought mine at an independent
bookstore, from the owner herself, and paid cover price.
One small step to keeping real bookstores available to me.

IMHO Frank's book, while pricey, is a good read.
--
Andrew Muzi
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old 12-03-2004, 06:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto

> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:1102093285.153392.115190@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>Just received notice that "The Dancing Chain" by Frank Berto will be
>>shipping around 2/5/2005 to people who have ordered it through
>>Amazon.com
>>For those who have not yet ordered a copy of this fine history of the
>>derailleur, it is available through the following link:
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>The current Amazon pre-order price is $32.97, which is a savings of 34%
>>off the list price of $49.95.


B. Lafferty wrote:
> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.


As with so many things, I bought mine at an independent
bookstore, from the owner herself, and paid cover price.
One small step to keeping real bookstores available to me.

IMHO Frank's book, while pricey, is a good read.
--
Andrew Muzi
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old 12-03-2004, 06:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
A Muzi
 
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto

> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:1102093285.153392.115190@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>Just received notice that "The Dancing Chain" by Frank Berto will be
>>shipping around 2/5/2005 to people who have ordered it through
>>Amazon.com
>>For those who have not yet ordered a copy of this fine history of the
>>derailleur, it is available through the following link:
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>The current Amazon pre-order price is $32.97, which is a savings of 34%
>>off the list price of $49.95.


B. Lafferty wrote:
> Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.


As with so many things, I bought mine at an independent
bookstore, from the owner herself, and paid cover price.
One small step to keeping real bookstores available to me.

IMHO Frank's book, while pricey, is a good read.
--
Andrew Muzi
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old 12-03-2004, 07:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: The Dancing Chain, by Frank Berto

Gary Young wrote:

> "B. Lafferty" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<jH2sd.3231$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthl ink.net>...
>
>>Excellent book. The price has gone up from the first edition.
>>
>>

>
> I read somewhere that this is a substantial rewrite, with Berto being
> the sole author. In my opinion, that's probably a good thing, since
> the major flaw with the first edition was that its parts didn't hang
> together as well as they might.


I agree. The first edition was very interesting, if you're really into
bike history and technical details. But it badly needed an editor's
strong hand.

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