Newbie q: kickstand - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

12-04-2004, 09:16 PM

Hi all,
I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
rotates back up, isn't that correct? I've been trying this and it
comes close to clearing the metal jut (about 1.5-2mm left to clear; if
I do not push the kickstand 'in', there's about 4mm to clear), but it
just doesn't do it (and I've been using as much force as I dared to,
and I've tried with my foot and with my hands).
Any advice? Perhaps it's still new and doesn't have as much 'give'
yet? The spring on the kickstand is wound really, really tight and I'm
not going to be able to unhook it easily.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

12-05-2004, 12:59 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (yosh) writes:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct?

For whatever it's worth:
My own kickstand works by pushing it inboard a little (as
you describe above) and then continuing to follow-through
by sweeping or flicking the kickstand leg backward with
my foot in a a smooth, almost effortless, naturally
feeling motion. Push it in a little, and while it's
pushed-in, sweep it back.

I think the trick to kickstands is to not think too much
about the mechanics of what's going on inside them, but
rather, to consider the simple ergonomics of manipulating
(pedipulating?) them.

cheers,
Tom

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12-05-2004, 12:59 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (yosh) writes:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct?

For whatever it's worth:
My own kickstand works by pushing it inboard a little (as
you describe above) and then continuing to follow-through
by sweeping or flicking the kickstand leg backward with
my foot in a a smooth, almost effortless, naturally
feeling motion. Push it in a little, and while it's
pushed-in, sweep it back.

I think the trick to kickstands is to not think too much
about the mechanics of what's going on inside them, but
rather, to consider the simple ergonomics of manipulating
(pedipulating?) them.

cheers,
Tom

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
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12-05-2004, 12:59 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (yosh) writes:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct?

For whatever it's worth:
My own kickstand works by pushing it inboard a little (as
you describe above) and then continuing to follow-through
by sweeping or flicking the kickstand leg backward with
my foot in a a smooth, almost effortless, naturally
feeling motion. Push it in a little, and while it's
pushed-in, sweep it back.

I think the trick to kickstands is to not think too much
about the mechanics of what's going on inside them, but
rather, to consider the simple ergonomics of manipulating
(pedipulating?) them.

cheers,
Tom

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
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12-05-2004, 12:59 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (yosh) writes:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct?

For whatever it's worth:
My own kickstand works by pushing it inboard a little (as
you describe above) and then continuing to follow-through
by sweeping or flicking the kickstand leg backward with
my foot in a a smooth, almost effortless, naturally
feeling motion. Push it in a little, and while it's
pushed-in, sweep it back.

I think the trick to kickstands is to not think too much
about the mechanics of what's going on inside them, but
rather, to consider the simple ergonomics of manipulating
(pedipulating?) them.

cheers,
Tom

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

12-05-2004, 07:51 AM

yosh wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct? I've been trying this and it
> comes close to clearing the metal jut (about 1.5-2mm left to clear; if
> I do not push the kickstand 'in', there's about 4mm to clear), but it
> just doesn't do it (and I've been using as much force as I dared to,
> and I've tried with my foot and with my hands).
> Any advice? Perhaps it's still new and doesn't have as much 'give'
> yet? The spring on the kickstand is wound really, really tight and I'm
> not going to be able to unhook it easily.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Remove it and send it to Fabrizio.

Problem solved; off you go...
--
BS (no, really)

12-05-2004, 07:51 AM

yosh wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct? I've been trying this and it
> comes close to clearing the metal jut (about 1.5-2mm left to clear; if
> I do not push the kickstand 'in', there's about 4mm to clear), but it
> just doesn't do it (and I've been using as much force as I dared to,
> and I've tried with my foot and with my hands).
> Any advice? Perhaps it's still new and doesn't have as much 'give'
> yet? The spring on the kickstand is wound really, really tight and I'm
> not going to be able to unhook it easily.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Remove it and send it to Fabrizio.

Problem solved; off you go...
--
BS (no, really)

12-05-2004, 07:51 AM

yosh wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct? I've been trying this and it
> comes close to clearing the metal jut (about 1.5-2mm left to clear; if
> I do not push the kickstand 'in', there's about 4mm to clear), but it
> just doesn't do it (and I've been using as much force as I dared to,
> and I've tried with my foot and with my hands).
> Any advice? Perhaps it's still new and doesn't have as much 'give'
> yet? The spring on the kickstand is wound really, really tight and I'm
> not going to be able to unhook it easily.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Remove it and send it to Fabrizio.

Problem solved; off you go...
--
BS (no, really)

12-05-2004, 07:51 AM

yosh wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just purchased a new mountain bike, which came partially assembled.
> As a complete newbie to assembling bikes, I was feeling pretty proud
> of myself after managing to get everything up and running etc...until
> I carried my bike out to the driveway intending to test out my
> handiwork and ran into a really stupid problem: the kickstand (which
> came pre-bolted on the bike, and which I had pushed to the down
> position to stabilize my bike during assembly) refuses to go back up.
> I can see and understand the 'mechanism'. There's a metal piece
> jutting out that blocks the kickstand head on its way back up.
> From limited experience, one is meant to kick the kickstand in such a
> way so that it moves 'in towards the frame', clears the metal jut and
> rotates back up, isn't that correct? I've been trying this and it
> comes close to clearing the metal jut (about 1.5-2mm left to clear; if
> I do not push the kickstand 'in', there's about 4mm to clear), but it
> just doesn't do it (and I've been using as much force as I dared to,
> and I've tried with my foot and with my hands).
> Any advice? Perhaps it's still new and doesn't have as much 'give'
> yet? The spring on the kickstand is wound really, really tight and I'm
> not going to be able to unhook it easily.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Remove it and send it to Fabrizio.

Problem solved; off you go...
--
BS (no, really)

12-05-2004, 09:19 AM

Unnecessary hardware. Remove and chuck it into the recycle bin.