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Old 12-07-2004, 06:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
Peter Cole
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

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> I just got home from work. It was pretty cool this morning with a
> promise of some showers during the evening commute so I brought the
> rain gear and figured that I'd rough it a bit. It turned out to be 37F
> with a steady light rain. My electric gloves are soaked through and my
> fingers froze.


Cold rain is the hardest thing to dress for. The best glove I've found is
full neoprene. The gloves I got are from an industrial supply house ($25)


> I wore my Kmart special rain pants, essentially a sheet of PVC in the
> shape of pants.


> Then I split them right up
> the crotch. Trashed.


Yeah, I've had the same experience. There are some similar inexpensive
coated fabric rainsuits that don't split like that and are just as
waterproof. I got my pants separately for ($10). Because I'm so tall, I
wear them as knickers, fastening the velcro just below the knee, much less
flappy.

> My booties did a very good job of keeping my feet
> warm and dry. They are soaked through though and are now hanging on
> the dryer.


The best thing I've found is thin, latex, over-boots (industrial supply
again). They're very stretchy, so they make a tight seal around the leg. I
just cut a small hole for SPD cleats. Fragile, and easy to tear, but only
$4.

> It would have been better had it been raining harder since I would
> have worn the Kmart special rain jacket instead of my normal biking
> jacket. Instead, the jacket is soaked through, hanging next to the
> booties and gloves. Water resistant is not water proof.


You can make water resistant stuff more so with spray-on compounds, the
"DWR" treatments tend to weaken with soil &/or washings.

> Tomorrow promises a more widespread rain but about 10 degrees warmer
> (NYC). Still, I don't think the stuff is going to be dry by then so
> I'll likely take the train. One uncomfortable trip per week is my
> limit. Yech.


It's really a matter of experimenting and finding out what works for you.
It is possible to have pleasant rides, even in cold rain, once you have
things dialed in.


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Old 12-07-2004, 07:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.


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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:26:55 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Maybe I need more hills. Riding to work is almost completely flat
> except for the 59th Street Bridge (Feeling Groovy!).


I'll give you at least one of mine. My entire ride into work is either
grinding up a hill, or sailing down the other side. The only flat section is
the bridge, really.


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Old 12-07-2004, 07:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.


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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:26:55 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .


> Maybe I need more hills. Riding to work is almost completely flat
> except for the 59th Street Bridge (Feeling Groovy!).


I'll give you at least one of mine. My entire ride into work is either
grinding up a hill, or sailing down the other side. The only flat section is
the bridge, really.


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Old 12-07-2004, 07:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.


"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:26:55 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .


> Maybe I need more hills. Riding to work is almost completely flat
> except for the 59th Street Bridge (Feeling Groovy!).


I'll give you at least one of mine. My entire ride into work is either
grinding up a hill, or sailing down the other side. The only flat section is
the bridge, really.


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Old 12-07-2004, 07:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.


"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:26:55 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .


> Maybe I need more hills. Riding to work is almost completely flat
> except for the 59th Street Bridge (Feeling Groovy!).


I'll give you at least one of mine. My entire ride into work is either
grinding up a hill, or sailing down the other side. The only flat section is
the bridge, really.


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Claire Petersky
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:20:58 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>
>> I just got home from work. It was pretty cool this morning with a
>> promise of some showers during the evening commute so I brought the
>> rain gear and figured that I'd rough it a bit. It turned out to be 37F
>> with a steady light rain. My electric gloves are soaked through and my
>> fingers froze.

>
>Cold rain is the hardest thing to dress for. The best glove I've found is
>full neoprene. The gloves I got are from an industrial supply house ($25)
>
>
>> I wore my Kmart special rain pants, essentially a sheet of PVC in the
>> shape of pants.

>
>> Then I split them right up
>> the crotch. Trashed.

>
>Yeah, I've had the same experience. There are some similar inexpensive
>coated fabric rainsuits that don't split like that and are just as
>waterproof. I got my pants separately for ($10). Because I'm so tall, I
>wear them as knickers, fastening the velcro just below the knee, much less
>flappy.
>
>> My booties did a very good job of keeping my feet
>> warm and dry. They are soaked through though and are now hanging on
>> the dryer.

>
>The best thing I've found is thin, latex, over-boots (industrial supply
>again). They're very stretchy, so they make a tight seal around the leg. I
>just cut a small hole for SPD cleats. Fragile, and easy to tear, but only
>$4.
>
>> It would have been better had it been raining harder since I would
>> have worn the Kmart special rain jacket instead of my normal biking
>> jacket. Instead, the jacket is soaked through, hanging next to the
>> booties and gloves. Water resistant is not water proof.

>
>You can make water resistant stuff more so with spray-on compounds, the
>"DWR" treatments tend to weaken with soil &/or washings.
>
>> Tomorrow promises a more widespread rain but about 10 degrees warmer
>> (NYC). Still, I don't think the stuff is going to be dry by then so
>> I'll likely take the train. One uncomfortable trip per week is my
>> limit. Yech.

>
>It's really a matter of experimenting and finding out what works for you.
>It is possible to have pleasant rides, even in cold rain, once you have
>things dialed in.
>


Thanks, I'm going to check for stuff like that. A bit of waterproofing
and I'll be happy to ride through the crap.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #27 (permalink)
dgk
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:20:58 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>
>> I just got home from work. It was pretty cool this morning with a
>> promise of some showers during the evening commute so I brought the
>> rain gear and figured that I'd rough it a bit. It turned out to be 37F
>> with a steady light rain. My electric gloves are soaked through and my
>> fingers froze.

>
>Cold rain is the hardest thing to dress for. The best glove I've found is
>full neoprene. The gloves I got are from an industrial supply house ($25)
>
>
>> I wore my Kmart special rain pants, essentially a sheet of PVC in the
>> shape of pants.

>
>> Then I split them right up
>> the crotch. Trashed.

>
>Yeah, I've had the same experience. There are some similar inexpensive
>coated fabric rainsuits that don't split like that and are just as
>waterproof. I got my pants separately for ($10). Because I'm so tall, I
>wear them as knickers, fastening the velcro just below the knee, much less
>flappy.
>
>> My booties did a very good job of keeping my feet
>> warm and dry. They are soaked through though and are now hanging on
>> the dryer.

>
>The best thing I've found is thin, latex, over-boots (industrial supply
>again). They're very stretchy, so they make a tight seal around the leg. I
>just cut a small hole for SPD cleats. Fragile, and easy to tear, but only
>$4.
>
>> It would have been better had it been raining harder since I would
>> have worn the Kmart special rain jacket instead of my normal biking
>> jacket. Instead, the jacket is soaked through, hanging next to the
>> booties and gloves. Water resistant is not water proof.

>
>You can make water resistant stuff more so with spray-on compounds, the
>"DWR" treatments tend to weaken with soil &/or washings.
>
>> Tomorrow promises a more widespread rain but about 10 degrees warmer
>> (NYC). Still, I don't think the stuff is going to be dry by then so
>> I'll likely take the train. One uncomfortable trip per week is my
>> limit. Yech.

>
>It's really a matter of experimenting and finding out what works for you.
>It is possible to have pleasant rides, even in cold rain, once you have
>things dialed in.
>


Thanks, I'm going to check for stuff like that. A bit of waterproofing
and I'll be happy to ride through the crap.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #28 (permalink)
dgk
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:20:58 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>
>> I just got home from work. It was pretty cool this morning with a
>> promise of some showers during the evening commute so I brought the
>> rain gear and figured that I'd rough it a bit. It turned out to be 37F
>> with a steady light rain. My electric gloves are soaked through and my
>> fingers froze.

>
>Cold rain is the hardest thing to dress for. The best glove I've found is
>full neoprene. The gloves I got are from an industrial supply house ($25)
>
>
>> I wore my Kmart special rain pants, essentially a sheet of PVC in the
>> shape of pants.

>
>> Then I split them right up
>> the crotch. Trashed.

>
>Yeah, I've had the same experience. There are some similar inexpensive
>coated fabric rainsuits that don't split like that and are just as
>waterproof. I got my pants separately for ($10). Because I'm so tall, I
>wear them as knickers, fastening the velcro just below the knee, much less
>flappy.
>
>> My booties did a very good job of keeping my feet
>> warm and dry. They are soaked through though and are now hanging on
>> the dryer.

>
>The best thing I've found is thin, latex, over-boots (industrial supply
>again). They're very stretchy, so they make a tight seal around the leg. I
>just cut a small hole for SPD cleats. Fragile, and easy to tear, but only
>$4.
>
>> It would have been better had it been raining harder since I would
>> have worn the Kmart special rain jacket instead of my normal biking
>> jacket. Instead, the jacket is soaked through, hanging next to the
>> booties and gloves. Water resistant is not water proof.

>
>You can make water resistant stuff more so with spray-on compounds, the
>"DWR" treatments tend to weaken with soil &/or washings.
>
>> Tomorrow promises a more widespread rain but about 10 degrees warmer
>> (NYC). Still, I don't think the stuff is going to be dry by then so
>> I'll likely take the train. One uncomfortable trip per week is my
>> limit. Yech.

>
>It's really a matter of experimenting and finding out what works for you.
>It is possible to have pleasant rides, even in cold rain, once you have
>things dialed in.
>


Thanks, I'm going to check for stuff like that. A bit of waterproofing
and I'll be happy to ride through the crap.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #29 (permalink)
dgk
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:20:58 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>
>> I just got home from work. It was pretty cool this morning with a
>> promise of some showers during the evening commute so I brought the
>> rain gear and figured that I'd rough it a bit. It turned out to be 37F
>> with a steady light rain. My electric gloves are soaked through and my
>> fingers froze.

>
>Cold rain is the hardest thing to dress for. The best glove I've found is
>full neoprene. The gloves I got are from an industrial supply house ($25)
>
>
>> I wore my Kmart special rain pants, essentially a sheet of PVC in the
>> shape of pants.

>
>> Then I split them right up
>> the crotch. Trashed.

>
>Yeah, I've had the same experience. There are some similar inexpensive
>coated fabric rainsuits that don't split like that and are just as
>waterproof. I got my pants separately for ($10). Because I'm so tall, I
>wear them as knickers, fastening the velcro just below the knee, much less
>flappy.
>
>> My booties did a very good job of keeping my feet
>> warm and dry. They are soaked through though and are now hanging on
>> the dryer.

>
>The best thing I've found is thin, latex, over-boots (industrial supply
>again). They're very stretchy, so they make a tight seal around the leg. I
>just cut a small hole for SPD cleats. Fragile, and easy to tear, but only
>$4.
>
>> It would have been better had it been raining harder since I would
>> have worn the Kmart special rain jacket instead of my normal biking
>> jacket. Instead, the jacket is soaked through, hanging next to the
>> booties and gloves. Water resistant is not water proof.

>
>You can make water resistant stuff more so with spray-on compounds, the
>"DWR" treatments tend to weaken with soil &/or washings.
>
>> Tomorrow promises a more widespread rain but about 10 degrees warmer
>> (NYC). Still, I don't think the stuff is going to be dry by then so
>> I'll likely take the train. One uncomfortable trip per week is my
>> limit. Yech.

>
>It's really a matter of experimenting and finding out what works for you.
>It is possible to have pleasant rides, even in cold rain, once you have
>things dialed in.
>


Thanks, I'm going to check for stuff like that. A bit of waterproofing
and I'll be happy to ride through the crap.
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:55 PM   #30 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Nope, I don't like cold wet weather.

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> I can't figure out a way to ride with just tights. I can't wear those
> at work (we have some standards) and I just don't have room to add
> pants to my pack.


Could you just have a pair of jeans at work? I don't know how dirty your job
gets you, but if you have an office job, as long as you don't drop your
lunch in your lap, you could probably wear the jeans just around the office
all week without having to wash them.


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