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Old 12-08-2004, 06:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Crashed today

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> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
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> >
> >"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
> >news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> >
> > I plan to contact the
> >> construction company to bitch at them anyway.

> >
> >About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
> >theirs.
> >
> >Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
> >

>
> ?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.


I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


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Old 12-08-2004, 06:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Crashed today

"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
> >news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> >
> > I plan to contact the
> >> construction company to bitch at them anyway.

> >
> >About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
> >theirs.
> >
> >Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
> >

>
> ?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.


I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
Claire Petersky
 
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Re: Crashed today

"dgk" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
> >news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> >
> > I plan to contact the
> >> construction company to bitch at them anyway.

> >
> >About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
> >theirs.
> >
> >Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
> >

>
> ?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.


I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
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Old 12-08-2004, 07:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Crashed today


"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
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> Riding home from work in the dark and hard rain at about 5:00 on a well
> paved,
> wide shouldered, but busy road. Ran into a heavy roadsign tripod laying
> flat on
> the ground, spread out on the shoulder of the road. Fell pretty hard, tore
> up my
> rainpants, broke a spoke in the front wheel. <%$^@*#!. Fortunately, the
> bike was
> still mobile, and the wheel is probably repairable. I plan to contact the
> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>
> Be careful out there.
>
>


I'm glad you were essentially OK.

I was really ticked off about 10 days ago when I hit a campaign sign. It
was laying just off the road, but it had those thin steel prongs I couldn't
see and they were out in the road. One was bent way up. As I rode over one
of the prongs with my front wheel, the whole sign flipped up and the second
prong slashed my right calf muscle. Then the whole thing clattered around
in my drivetrain and rear wheel. No harm to the bike and my leg is fine.
But the candidates were supposed to have removed their signs as soon as the
election was over. It could have been much worse.

Bob C.


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Old 12-08-2004, 07:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Crashed today


"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> Riding home from work in the dark and hard rain at about 5:00 on a well
> paved,
> wide shouldered, but busy road. Ran into a heavy roadsign tripod laying
> flat on
> the ground, spread out on the shoulder of the road. Fell pretty hard, tore
> up my
> rainpants, broke a spoke in the front wheel. <%$^@*#!. Fortunately, the
> bike was
> still mobile, and the wheel is probably repairable. I plan to contact the
> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>
> Be careful out there.
>
>


I'm glad you were essentially OK.

I was really ticked off about 10 days ago when I hit a campaign sign. It
was laying just off the road, but it had those thin steel prongs I couldn't
see and they were out in the road. One was bent way up. As I rode over one
of the prongs with my front wheel, the whole sign flipped up and the second
prong slashed my right calf muscle. Then the whole thing clattered around
in my drivetrain and rear wheel. No harm to the bike and my leg is fine.
But the candidates were supposed to have removed their signs as soon as the
election was over. It could have been much worse.

Bob C.


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Old 12-08-2004, 07:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
psycholist
 
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Re: Crashed today


"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> Riding home from work in the dark and hard rain at about 5:00 on a well
> paved,
> wide shouldered, but busy road. Ran into a heavy roadsign tripod laying
> flat on
> the ground, spread out on the shoulder of the road. Fell pretty hard, tore
> up my
> rainpants, broke a spoke in the front wheel. <%$^@*#!. Fortunately, the
> bike was
> still mobile, and the wheel is probably repairable. I plan to contact the
> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>
> Be careful out there.
>
>


I'm glad you were essentially OK.

I was really ticked off about 10 days ago when I hit a campaign sign. It
was laying just off the road, but it had those thin steel prongs I couldn't
see and they were out in the road. One was bent way up. As I rode over one
of the prongs with my front wheel, the whole sign flipped up and the second
prong slashed my right calf muscle. Then the whole thing clattered around
in my drivetrain and rear wheel. No harm to the bike and my leg is fine.
But the candidates were supposed to have removed their signs as soon as the
election was over. It could have been much worse.

Bob C.


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Old 12-08-2004, 07:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
psycholist
 
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Re: Crashed today


"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
> Riding home from work in the dark and hard rain at about 5:00 on a well
> paved,
> wide shouldered, but busy road. Ran into a heavy roadsign tripod laying
> flat on
> the ground, spread out on the shoulder of the road. Fell pretty hard, tore
> up my
> rainpants, broke a spoke in the front wheel. <%$^@*#!. Fortunately, the
> bike was
> still mobile, and the wheel is probably repairable. I plan to contact the
> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>
> Be careful out there.
>
>


I'm glad you were essentially OK.

I was really ticked off about 10 days ago when I hit a campaign sign. It
was laying just off the road, but it had those thin steel prongs I couldn't
see and they were out in the road. One was bent way up. As I rode over one
of the prongs with my front wheel, the whole sign flipped up and the second
prong slashed my right calf muscle. Then the whole thing clattered around
in my drivetrain and rear wheel. No harm to the bike and my leg is fine.
But the candidates were supposed to have removed their signs as soon as the
election was over. It could have been much worse.

Bob C.


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Old 12-08-2004, 07:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
Rich
 
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Re: Crashed today

Claire Petersky wrote:

>>?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.

>
>
> I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
> Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
> cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


I agree that it's annoying when signs are erected in the bike lane, but
I figure the big-picture tradeoff is probably worth it. 1000s of
motorists are alerted to the consturction, only a few bikers are
inconvenienced. Probably not a popular stand here on this group, but
seems rational to me.

As for this instance, it's possible they just left it lying there, or
someone (punk teenagers, they're easy to blame) could have knocked it
down, or it could have fallen off a truck. It's hard to say who's at
fault for it lying on the roadway.

But the bike rider must surely assume some responsibility for riding in
the dark with inadequite lighting, as he didn't see the sign. I think
he should fix his bike (consider it "life tax"), get a light, and move on.

Rich

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Old 12-08-2004, 07:11 AM   #19 (permalink)
Rich
 
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Re: Crashed today

Claire Petersky wrote:

>>?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.

>
>
> I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
> Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
> cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


I agree that it's annoying when signs are erected in the bike lane, but
I figure the big-picture tradeoff is probably worth it. 1000s of
motorists are alerted to the consturction, only a few bikers are
inconvenienced. Probably not a popular stand here on this group, but
seems rational to me.

As for this instance, it's possible they just left it lying there, or
someone (punk teenagers, they're easy to blame) could have knocked it
down, or it could have fallen off a truck. It's hard to say who's at
fault for it lying on the roadway.

But the bike rider must surely assume some responsibility for riding in
the dark with inadequite lighting, as he didn't see the sign. I think
he should fix his bike (consider it "life tax"), get a light, and move on.

Rich

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Old 12-08-2004, 07:11 AM   #20 (permalink)
Rich
 
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Re: Crashed today

Claire Petersky wrote:

>>?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.

>
>
> I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
> Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
> cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.


I agree that it's annoying when signs are erected in the bike lane, but
I figure the big-picture tradeoff is probably worth it. 1000s of
motorists are alerted to the consturction, only a few bikers are
inconvenienced. Probably not a popular stand here on this group, but
seems rational to me.

As for this instance, it's possible they just left it lying there, or
someone (punk teenagers, they're easy to blame) could have knocked it
down, or it could have fallen off a truck. It's hard to say who's at
fault for it lying on the roadway.

But the bike rider must surely assume some responsibility for riding in
the dark with inadequite lighting, as he didn't see the sign. I think
he should fix his bike (consider it "life tax"), get a light, and move on.

Rich

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