Crashed today - Page 3 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

12-08-2004, 07:11 AM

Claire Petersky wrote:

>>?? Leaving stuff lying around is irresponsible.
>
>
> I *hate* road construction signs that are placed on the bike lane/shoulder.
> Is the trade-off of alerting motorists worth the hazard to me? I don't blame
> cheg for being unhappy that they didn't pick up after themselves.

I agree that it's annoying when signs are erected in the bike lane, but
I figure the big-picture tradeoff is probably worth it. 1000s of
motorists are alerted to the consturction, only a few bikers are
inconvenienced. Probably not a popular stand here on this group, but
seems rational to me.

As for this instance, it's possible they just left it lying there, or
someone (punk teenagers, they're easy to blame) could have knocked it
down, or it could have fallen off a truck. It's hard to say who's at
fault for it lying on the roadway.

But the bike rider must surely assume some responsibility for riding in
the dark with inadequite lighting, as he didn't see the sign. I think
he should fix his bike (consider it "life tax"), get a light, and move on.

Rich

12-08-2004, 07:29 AM

:
: I plan to contact the
: > construction company to bitch at them anyway.
:
: About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
: theirs.
:
: Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
:
: Cheto

Yeah! Blame the victim!
:
:

12-08-2004, 07:29 AM

:
: I plan to contact the
: > construction company to bitch at them anyway.
:
: About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
: theirs.
:
: Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
:
: Cheto

Yeah! Blame the victim!
:
:

12-08-2004, 07:29 AM

:
: I plan to contact the
: > construction company to bitch at them anyway.
:
: About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
: theirs.
:
: Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
:
: Cheto

Yeah! Blame the victim!
:
:

12-08-2004, 07:29 AM

:
: I plan to contact the
: > construction company to bitch at them anyway.
:
: About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
: theirs.
:
: Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
:
: Cheto

Yeah! Blame the victim!
:
:

12-08-2004, 07:47 AM

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
>news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
>
> I plan to contact the
>> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
>theirs.
>
>Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
>
>Cheto
>
If it was negligence on the part of the construction company, they
should at least be notified.
He will be doing them a favor, if his call prevents someone else from
being injured.

Life is Good!
Jeff

12-08-2004, 07:47 AM

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
>news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
>
> I plan to contact the
>> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
>theirs.
>
>Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
>
>Cheto
>
If it was negligence on the part of the construction company, they
should at least be notified.
He will be doing them a favor, if his call prevents someone else from
being injured.

Life is Good!
Jeff

12-08-2004, 07:47 AM

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
>news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
>
> I plan to contact the
>> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
>theirs.
>
>Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
>
>Cheto
>
If it was negligence on the part of the construction company, they
should at least be notified.
He will be doing them a favor, if his call prevents someone else from
being injured.

Life is Good!
Jeff

12-08-2004, 07:47 AM

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:06:56 -0800, "Cheto"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"cheg" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote in message
>news:awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51...
>
> I plan to contact the
>> construction company to bitch at them anyway.
>
>About what? It's you're responsibility to watch where you're going, not
>theirs.
>
>Just forget about it, fix your bike and get on with your life.
>
>Cheto
>
If it was negligence on the part of the construction company, they
should at least be notified.
He will be doing them a favor, if his call prevents someone else from
being injured.

Life is Good!
Jeff

12-08-2004, 11:01 AM

In article <awvtd.530726$D%.505999@attbi_s51>, cheg wrote:
> Riding home from work in the dark and hard rain at about 5:00 on a well paved,
> wide shouldered, but busy road. Ran into a heavy roadsign tripod laying flat on
> the ground, spread out on the shoulder of the road. Fell pretty hard, tore up my

This wouldn't happen to be Vancouver would it? I narrowly avoided a sign
lying face down on the bike lane like that on Marine Drive yesterday. The
only reason I noticed it was I knew the construction company had dug up the
bike lane, and I was watching ahead to try and see where it was going to
make the transition from pavement -> loose dirt.

That section is a nightmare right now, there's about two blocks where the
bike lane has loose dirt and gravel strewn over it from construction,
with the roads slick to begin with and the section itself on the run-in
from a nice steady hill, it's just waiting for disaster.

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